Joe Rogan Experience #2223 - Elon Musk

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0:11 day uh but but if you want to sort of

0:14 see like a vision of the future it's

0:16 like basically the the like the top 20

0:18 and even the top 100 is like totally

0:21 dominated by China it's yeah this is

0:23 like China and a little bit of Korea and

0:25 Taiwan so you in are you in the top 20

0:27 in the world or top 20 wow in DIA

0:30 yeah yeah do you want to tell everybody

0:32 your handle no no don't tell them don't

0:35 tell them it's not worth it well they

0:37 they actually listed me with my actual

0:39 name in the in the list oh did they

0:41 really oh interesting um but um yeah

0:46 there's only there's only two Americans

0:47 in the top 20 uh the the rest almost

0:49 everyone is from Asia otherwise we were

0:51 talking about something that I think is

0:53 a really good because people always

0:54 think that video games are frivolous but

0:56 what what you were saying I think that's

0:57 really important is it it's so difficult

1:00 that it requires you to only think about

1:02 that and it can like relieve stress it

1:05 can take out the rest of the world cuz

1:07 it's so hard yeah you can only think

1:09 about that yeah I mean if finally if I

1:11 play a video game on Extreme difficulty

1:13 then um I have to concentrate fully on

1:15 the game um and it's it's has a calming

1:18 effect yeah uh it sort of chills down um

1:22 and uh I mean you mentioned I think many

1:24 people like if you play martial arts or

1:26 you play pool like something that that

1:28 forces you it's like I think any

1:30 anything that forces you to concentrate

1:32 fully um actually has a has a calming

1:36 effect I find it just sort of

1:38 like um kind of a mental a restoring

1:41 effect mentally it's like it's good

1:43 Jiu-Jitsu is like that archeries like

1:45 that as well like when you're shooting a

1:47 bow you have to is there's so many

1:49 moving things and you're trying you have

1:52 to think only of it and it cleans the

1:54 mind it cleans the mind yeah exactly I

1:55 was watch I was reading this study about

1:58 surgeons where they found that surgeons

2:00 who regularly play video games make less

2:02 errors well it's I mean video games

2:05 require manual dexterity so uh it makes

2:07 sense completely makes sense actually if

2:09 somebody was like epic at video games uh

2:12 i' I'd say like their surgical skill is

2:13 going to be very good because in order

2:14 to be good at video games any kind of

2:16 fast reaction video games look at this

2:18 32% fewer errors 24% faster and scored

2:23 26% better overall than their non-player

2:26 colleagues oh I believe that for sure

2:28 that's incredible you should be required

2:31 in medical school to play video games I

2:34 if somebody's like top a top ranked

2:35 video game player and they say they're a

2:37 surgeon I'd be like plus plus one plus

2:39 two type of thing oh top ranked for sure

2:41 but this isn't even top ranked this is

2:42 just people who play well your your

2:45 manual dexterity has to be extremely

2:46 high so you're you're looking at things

2:47 on the screen you've got you're reacting

2:49 and you some you got like 10

2:50 milliseconds to react yes um and um and

2:54 and so if somebody's got uh incredible

2:56 reaction times manual dexterity they're

2:58 obviously going to be a good surgeon

3:00 imagine if there was a course that you

3:01 could take that course would promote you

3:03 would be 26% better yeah everyone would

3:07 have to take that course sure why would

3:09 you want a surgeon that's less prepared

3:11 you would say hey Bob did you take this

3:12 course you didn't take this course don't

3:14 you understand this course makes you 26%

3:16 better sure you would have to take it

3:18 everyone should have to play video games

3:19 if you want to be a surgeon well I think

3:21 it' be it certainly would be a very good

3:23 test to see if somebody can't play video

3:25 games well like that means I me because

3:27 you got to move both hands

3:28 simultaneously you got to react

3:29 something very fast then um on the

3:32 screen so and and if if your keystrokes

3:35 or your mouse clicks or whatever are

3:37 wrong uh then you lose the game so if

3:41 somebody's like has a good rank in video

3:43 games I would say that they're manual de

3:45 necessarily their manual dexterity must

3:47 be very extremely good well it's so hard

3:49 motor skills have to be excellent if you

3:50 think about like Starcraft or any any

3:52 game like Quake any game where a lot of

3:54 people are playing to rise to the top

3:56 you have to be exceptional period as a

3:58 human being there's to be something

4:00 exceptional about you yeah actually

4:02 Quake way way back in the day I was one

4:04 of the world's best Quake players I know

4:06 we talked about this yeah um I loved

4:08 Quake yeah yeah I my final semester in

4:11 college I probably put more time into

4:12 Quake than all my college classes when I

4:14 was on news radio all of the writers

4:17 were super nerds they were very very fun

4:19 guys and they had a land set up at the

4:22 studio where they all played Quake I had

4:23 never played video games and I would go

4:25 in with the writers just kind of hang

4:26 out with them we'd get silly and then we

4:28 would would all start playing video

4:30 games and playing Quake against each

4:31 other and I got addicted like hardcore I

4:34 got a T1 line installed in my house I

4:37 went hardcore yeah exactly you're

4:39 checking how many milliseconds of

4:40 latency you oh yeah I was I was fully

4:42 addicted I was making my own computers I

4:45 was going to fries hardware and buying

4:47 motherboards and putting everything

4:49 together and you know it was too much of

4:52 a Time suck though I'm an obsessive

4:54 person I can't get involved like I can't

4:56 put golf no it's too golf is too slow

4:59 for I mean I know a lot of people find

5:00 golf good and I mean I guess if you

5:02 think of it like it's I guess if you're

5:04 saying you're going to walk outdoors

5:05 with friends and occasionally hit a ball

5:08 then and and you're just as an outdoor

5:10 walk then that's cool um and does

5:12 require concentration we hitting the

5:14 ball but it it's it's it's a it's this

5:16 too slow for me nothing compares to

5:18 video games in terms of like the amount

5:20 of feedback you get like the the the the

5:22 sensory overload you get when you're

5:25 looking at a large high resolution

5:27 screen you have a fast computer you have

5:29 headphones on that you're hearing sounds

5:31 from here and sounds behind you and

5:33 Rockets are flying by you and it's

5:36 there's nothing like that yeah but I

5:38 think golf still is like Jamie will tell

5:40 you Jam's an addict he's a Golf Nut it's

5:43 super addictive and it takes like eight

5:46 hours a day it's yes uh once you get

5:49 into golf I think I guess any sport it

5:51 gets super predictive um so but but for

5:55 me the the int the intensity of video

5:57 games is uh hard to beat yes it's and

6:01 the people dismiss it because they think

6:03 it's just a waste of time but we're

6:05 showing like real world benefits so

6:07 people playing video games yeah if you

6:08 want to be a drone operator it's the

6:09 only game in town yeah really good at

6:12 video games yeah um for sure so um in

6:16 fact I can actually tell U like what my

6:18 me mental acuity is uh if I just play if

6:21 I play a very hard video game so if I'm

6:23 trying to sort of get like a an

6:26 extremely good clear time in Diablo or

6:28 something like that um

6:30 or or any you know a post person

6:32 shootter whatever the case may be like

6:35 if I I can tell that I'm tired uh or my

6:39 brain's not working as well as it should

6:41 it's it's like a it's like a mental

6:42 calibration you can tell immediately

6:44 like what is what what how good is your

6:45 mental state right right um and

6:50 uh you know so it's like like if if

6:52 you're trying to play really well like I

6:54 If you play late at night and you're

6:55 tired you would just play badly right

6:57 and you can say okay you you may think

6:59 that your brain is working well but it

7:01 isn't because you can you play the video

7:03 game and you're like you suck so okay

7:05 yeah you're putting it under stress yeah

7:07 you're really stress testing it you

7:09 stress test it and uh cuz like sometimes

7:11 like oh I think I think I'm fine but

7:13 then you play the game like okay I'm not

7:14 I might I'm like 10% below what I should

7:16 be that's how I feel about workouts for

7:18 sure like that's how I knew I had Co or

7:20 I knew everyone in my family had Co and

7:23 I trying to not get covid and so I was

7:26 working out I was like something's up

7:28 like I felt fine nor but then during

7:30 exercise I was like okay I can tell

7:31 there's something wrong here so let's

7:33 back off relax yeah yeah it's like

7:37 people who don't stress test their mind

7:39 they think they're operating on the same

7:41 level all the time like sometimes I come

7:43 in here and I can't form a sense

7:46 and I don't know what it is it's like

7:48 what is going on so it's just like like

7:50 sleep's not maybe like what sleep wasn't

7:51 that good or something like that yeah

7:52 something like that or I'm too busy and

7:55 it's just it's not the words aren't

7:56 coming out like I know how to talk I

7:58 talk professionally and I can't

7:59 talk it's like I mean sleep's is is is

8:02 massive I mean like huge yeah so uh if I

8:06 can tell me Le did I get a good night

8:07 sleep or not if if I just play like uh

8:10 video game for like five minutes I'm

8:12 like okay my sleep wasn't that good um

8:14 because my my you know and then

8:16 sometimes they your brain will recover

8:18 through the day and it's like okay like

8:20 an hour or two after waking up it's

8:22 better uh CU your brain does kind of

8:24 recover from Bad nights sleep a little

8:26 bit during you know what it really helps

8:27 creatine apparently does it yeah

8:29 creatine is actually a neut Tropic

8:31 believe it or not there's a lot of like

8:33 benefits of creatine that are really

8:34 weird are there any downsides no no it's

8:37 natural part of food yeah yeah

8:39 especially women for for women

8:41 apparently especially postmenopausal

8:43 women it's very beneficial okay and uh

8:45 it there's but there's a lot of like

8:47 cognitive benefits and one of the big

8:49 ones that they found recently is

8:51 performance when sleep deprived mental

8:54 performance when sleep deprived

8:56 increases pretty measurably when you

8:58 supplement with creatine

9:00 is creatin naturally occurring in like

9:01 steak or yeah it's like naturally

9:03 occurring in meat I think I think that's

9:06 where it's coming from I think it's a

9:08 primarily an animal-based thing yeah but

9:11 like I I did switch to like steak and

9:13 eggs for breakfast and I found that's

9:15 like a PowerUp oh yeah yeah yeah well

9:18 we're all overrun with carbohydrates

9:20 yeah yeah totally and you like

9:21 carbohydrates make this big crash the

9:24 rise and the Crash the rise and the

9:25 Crash you stay flat if you eat like a a

9:28 primarily High high protein high fat

9:30 diet yeah your body runs off ketosis

9:33 essentially I mean so I just have like

9:35 steak and eggs no no bread or or

9:36 anything and it's great actually it's a

9:39 PowerUp I'd say people dismiss this

9:41 whole carnivore diet thing because in

9:43 our heads there's a lot of propagandist

9:45 that put this thing out there that

9:47 animal agriculture is the number one

9:50 contributor to global warming this

9:53 rubish not true it's hot

9:55 do matter not only is it hot

9:56 but the real problem is Factory

9:59 f

10:00 regenerative farming is carbon neutral

10:02 if doesn't sequester carbon the the the

10:05 animals are not going to make any

10:06 difference to global warming like none

10:08 Zer zero nothing do you think that

10:11 that's just propaganda because of people

10:13 that have a vested interest in like

10:14 plant-based meat products and things

10:16 along those lines green energy I think

10:19 it's part of it um you know that you're

10:22 generally going to get people pushing to

10:23 avoid me like some people just you know

10:26 um yeah maybe they got to financial

10:28 interest maybe they just just like

10:29 vegetarians or vegans or whatever um

10:31 ideological ideological reasons um but

10:34 uh it's not going to make any difference

10:36 uh to global warming or you know the CO2

10:39 concentration atmosphere really um if if

10:41 people eat fewer uh steaks it doesn't

10:44 matter it's relevant irrelevant I want

10:45 to be super clear about that yeah will

10:48 not matter you will not even be able to

10:49 measure it okay that's how irrelevant it

10:52 is isn't it funny that that's

10:54 unmeasurable heretic speaking like

10:57 that's crazy talk now nowadays it's like

10:59 you have to say that we have to eat less

11:01 meat that meat is bad totally eat as

11:04 much as you want it's not going to make

11:05 a difference sing it sing it to world

11:08 yeah absolutely um and if somebody says

11:10 it does make a difference I'm like how

11:11 will you measure it and if you can't

11:12 even measure it then it's yeah

11:14 yeah literally I won't be able to

11:15 measure it well there's so much

11:17 out today first of all all

11:19 directions thank you so much for buying

11:22 Twitter thank you so much I'm not

11:24 exaggerating when I think you changed

11:26 the course of history I really do I

11:28 really think you you made a fork in the

11:31 road we were headed down a path of

11:34 censorship and of control of narratives

11:39 that is unprecedented forget about what

11:41 they were able to do back when they had

11:43 newspapers and the media under control

11:46 the what they were doing with social

11:47 media by suppressing information and

11:50 when you had a combined government

11:52 effort like with the what they were

11:53 doing with the laptop story y you have

11:55 51 Former Intelligence agents saying

11:58 that this is Russ disinformation take it

12:01 off offline and Twitter complied yeah if

12:04 if you didn't buy that we wouldn't have

12:05 known that we had no idea exactly uh no

12:09 it's I mean the the reason I border was

12:11 because I'm pretty attuned um since I I

12:14 was like the most interacted with a user

12:16 on Twitter before the acquisition so

12:19 before the acquisition I had more

12:20 interactions that than like there's some

12:22 accounts like Obama and whatever had

12:23 higher follower accounts uh but uh I had

12:26 the most number of interactions of of

12:28 any account in the system

12:29 so um I was very attuned to like if if

12:32 they saw change if they change the

12:34 system I can tell immediately like and

12:36 I'm like I'm like something weird is

12:37 going on here you know like so there's

12:39 like I I just got increasingly uneasy um

12:43 and obviously when when they deplatform

12:45 to sitting president you know not deep

12:47 de deep platform Trump uh that was that

12:50 was just insane um you know um and and

12:53 and the things he was posting like he

12:55 was posting things that that like he was

12:57 posting good things he was saying like

12:58 hey

12:59 we don't do not Riot don't don't do any

13:03 destruction of property you know please

13:05 stay calm like that's the kind of stuff

13:07 was posting yeah and you're like uh

13:10 what's wrong with that that's and and

13:12 then then then some people say like oh

13:13 that's like some sort of dog whistle he

13:14 means the opposite I'm like okay so

13:16 we'll give you Trump's account now you

13:18 you post what you think he should post

13:20 because he can post nothing he can ask

13:22 people to calm

13:23 down like what it was insane like it

13:27 didn't make any sense well it's

13:28 completely a l local when you say it's

13:30 dog whistling to tell his followers to

13:33 not be violent that's crazy crazy that's

13:35 crazy don't you think they'll listen to

13:37 him yeah isn't that the whole point they

13:39 listened to him and created violence in

13:41 the first place that's what you think

13:42 that's what you're you're accusing him

13:44 of right and then there's the fact that

13:46 we know that there was agents in the

13:48 crowd that were agent provocators that

13:50 were encouraging people to do illegal

13:52 we know that for a fact this is not

13:55 that was always the big Alex Jones type

13:58 10 hat conspiracy theory cuz Alex

14:01 proposed that back at the World Trade

14:03 Organization protests I believe we in

14:06 Seattle in the 90s and they sent in

14:09 agent provocator started smashing things

14:11 lighting things on fire now all a sudden

14:13 a peaceful protest is no longer peaceful

14:15 they move in the cops they shut

14:16 everything down they had it set up where

14:19 it was a no protest Zone where you

14:21 couldn't even have a pin that had the

14:23 WTO with a red line through it they

14:24 wouldn't let you go in through to go to

14:26 work so you couldn't prot you couldn't

14:28 exercise your first amendment rights you

14:31 couldn't even like have a peaceful

14:32 protest a sticker on your car

14:34 you couldn't have that it's crazy it is

14:37 crazy so no I think we're we we're very

14:40 much at a folk in the road in uh Destiny

14:42 um and um you know so I I mean the

14:47 reason I yeah did the Twitter

14:48 acquisition was like it's like man if I

14:50 don't do this I think we're screwed is

14:52 the issue well you didn't do it no one

14:53 else was going to do it because it

14:54 wasn't a financial winner it was kind of

14:57 a crazy move it's a crazy move I mean

14:59 the the thing was way overpriced um and

15:03 um you know like long term I think uh we

15:06 can we can ultimately make it a win for

15:08 investors but boy this is this is a this

15:11 is a hard way to make a living well

15:12 there's also a concerted effort to

15:14 suppress it there's a concered effort

15:16 with the advertisers well we we we had a

15:18 and still have um a massive Advertiser

15:21 boycott that was organized by a bunch of

15:23 leftwing NGS like uh you know and and

15:26 you always want and I should have I

15:28 should have brought my uh I I have a hat

15:31 make all well fiction again I've seen

15:33 that hat yeah I I should have I was

15:36 going toar I should have bought my make

15:38 oil fiction had to um but but uh yeah I

15:42 mean it's just totally totally nuts um

15:45 so if you didn't do it no one would have

15:47 and here's the hilarious narrative that

15:49 I keep hearing from idiots uh elon's a

15:52 bad business man Twitter is worth you

15:54 know 400% less than when he bought it no

15:57 it wasn't worth that in the first place

15:59 it wasn't worth that in the first place

15:59 it wasn't worth $44 billion you

16:01 morons like wrong and also you're not

16:04 taking into account The Advertiser

16:05 boycott exact that's total yeah

16:08 exactly so there are these organizations

16:11 like you can tell there's like they're

16:12 like like when they have an ellian name

16:15 so like the like the C Center for

16:17 countering digital hate is is a total

16:19 scam organization you know CU they're

16:22 like the ministry of truth type of thing

16:23 in O um you know

16:27 uh they like there censorship

16:29 organization yeah um and they organiz

16:31 and and they pushed uh the advertisers

16:33 to boycott uh so we still have like some

16:37 of the boycott is is is starting to lift

16:40 um and I think if Trump wins we'll we'll

16:43 see you know probably a lot most most of

16:45 the boycott lift um but if if Kamala

16:47 wins we'll see that boycott get stronger

16:50 and and they'll they'll freaking shut

16:51 down there's no way that that the sort

16:54 of Kamala po regime would allow X to

16:56 exist you really think that they'll be

16:57 able to shut it down though is there

16:59 Pathway to that uh yes what would they

17:02 do

17:04 um well I mean they can just they can

17:07 sck the doj on you know and say like you

17:10 know they've had this whole thing about

17:11 like hate speech misinformation whatever

17:13 except they're the ones pushing the

17:15 misinformation but that doesn't stop

17:16 them from filing massive you know

17:18 lawsuits and using the doj I mean like

17:21 the doj is you know been attacking

17:24 SpaceX for example for not hiring Asylum

17:26 Seekers even though it is legal for

17:28 SpaceX to hire anyone who is not a

17:30 permanent resident of the us so we we're

17:33 downed if we do and downed if we don't

17:35 there an examp just an example of what

17:37 drj can do so it's illegal to hire

17:39 someone who's not an American citizen um

17:42 for what SpaceX uh is considered an an

17:45 advanced weapons technology so it's it's

17:48 covered by International traffic and

17:49 arms regulations because we make rocket

17:51 technology that can be used against the

17:52 United States so like if North North

17:54 Korea or Iran got SpaceX rocket

17:56 technology they could use that to launch

17:58 nukes at America America right that

17:59 would be bad yeah that'd be really bad

18:02 that would be really bad so so we're

18:04 we're uh since we are in like the most

18:07 extreme category of weapons technology

18:08 at SpaceX um under us itar law it is uh

18:13 illegal for us to hire anyone who's not

18:15 a permanent resident because the

18:16 presumption um is that if they're not a

18:18 permanent resident they're going to

18:20 return to their home country and take

18:22 the rocket technology with them so

18:25 that's and so so it's illegal for us to

18:27 hire um anyone who's not a either has

18:30 not a per they can they can be have a

18:32 green card or be a citizen they just

18:33 have to be a permanent resident of the

18:34 United States um then there's another

18:37 law that says if you if you discriminate

18:39 against Asylum Seekers that's also

18:42 you're also breaking the

18:44 law so they they just so that the drj

18:48 which the DJ drj can only do a small

18:50 number of big lawsuits every year laun a

18:52 giant lawsuit against SpaceX uh saying

18:54 that SpaceX uh discriminated against

18:57 Asylum Seekers and we're like but we're

18:59 like but it's illegal for us to hire

19:01 anyone who's not a permanent resident so

19:03 we're in this like this is what I mean

19:04 it's like or well the orell situation is

19:07 getting insane like you're damned if you

19:09 do and you're damned if you don't so

19:12 you're damned can you imagine history

19:14 looking back f up man at when you watch

19:17 the robot arms catch the rocket and you

19:20 realize like this is like one of the

19:21 greatest accomplishments in the history

19:24 of Aerospace like it is one of the more

19:26 wildest accomplishments when you watch

19:28 that thing come and you see all the

19:29 people cheering and it catches it

19:31 perfectly like holy imagine how

19:35 history is going to look back at the doj

19:38 going after that company yeah how insane

19:41 it is a big lawsuit with an army of

19:43 lawyers like this was not like some

19:45 minor thing but it doesn't even make any

19:46 sense logically like how can it even get

19:48 brought to court if it's illegal that's

19:50 exactly so that's what I mean like like

19:53 like basically if the government wants

19:54 to go after you they'll just find a

19:55 reason you it's like that famous quote

19:58 um from barrier you know like so like

20:00 Stalin's Like Chief torturer the head of

20:03 St Stalin's secret police and he's like

20:05 Chief torturer truly evil human being

20:07 like this guy barrier uh he his one of

20:10 his famous quotes was show me the man

20:12 and I'll show you the crime right they

20:14 just they just they they like they

20:16 decide that you're the Target and then

20:18 they figure out the crime

20:20 afterwards that's the issue they decided

20:23 SpaceX was a Target they just figured

20:25 out the crime afterwards which is so

20:27 crazy because that's exactly what they

20:28 saying Trump is going to do if he gets

20:30 into office they're doing all the things

20:33 that they accuse Trump of doing yeah

20:35 openly openly yeah I mean the the sheer

20:39 number of hoaxes that the Democratic

20:41 party is pushing over and over again

20:43 they and and it's like look I understand

20:45 like politicians are going to you know

20:48 exaggerate they're going

20:50 to misspeak and they'll tell occasional

20:53 you know untruths whatever that's that's

20:55 how it is in politics but when you have

20:57 deliberate inerted repeated pushing of

21:01 hoaxes you're like wait a second like

21:04 come on man this is too this is too far

21:06 and you're supposed to be the good guys

21:07 you're supposed and you claim to be the

21:09 good guys I'm like exactly you're

21:10 supposed to be the progressives yes the

21:12 dams are like oh we're the good guys

21:13 we're the honest people no no hang on

21:16 you can't claim to be the good guys you

21:17 can't claim to be the honest people if

21:18 you're deliberately post pushing hoaxes

21:22 that have been debunked thoroughly yeah

21:25 like even Snopes which is a liberal

21:27 thing says it's bogus yeah like the fine

21:29 people ho Obama just said that on stage

21:32 just said that I was like what the

21:33 flying he doesn't give a he

21:35 doesn't give a they're just they're

21:37 just FL goddamn lie flat out lie

21:39 flat out lie how about the other

21:41 one where kamala's campaign used what

21:43 Trump was saying about protecting women

21:45 and uh from illegal immigrants thank you

21:47 you remember that that he what he was

21:49 saying is the women like it or not I'm

21:52 going to do it yeah when he was saying

21:54 that they were trying to say that he was

21:55 taking away women's right to choose

21:58 whether women like it or not like that's

21:59 not what he was saying absolutely he was

22:01 literally talking about protecting them

22:03 from dangerous people that are sneaking

22:04 in through the Border yes exactly

22:06 they'll take like like not even a full

22:08 sentence like a half a sentence from

22:10 Trump and then and then they'll push it

22:12 on on every ad every you know every

22:14 speaking event every and it gets

22:16 repeated on the news this is what's

22:18 crazy they'll talk about it on these new

22:20 shows quote new shows yeah exactly I

22:23 mean um I mean a recent one that that

22:25 came up um which had a lot of people cuz

22:28 you a lot of people reached out to me

22:30 was like they're like oh Trump says he

22:33 wants to execute Liz Cheney I'm like

22:35 that is utter it's not what he

22:37 said at all it's not what he said at all

22:38 he all he said was like was like what he

22:41 was saying is that look if if Liz Chene

22:43 uh um actually had to fight at the front

22:47 lines should think twice about going to

22:49 war exactly that like it's easy to go

22:52 it's easy to go to war it's easy to be a

22:54 warmonger if you don't have to you know

22:56 risk dying at the front lines like if

22:58 other like basically it's up if

23:00 if people are having like fancy dinners

23:02 in Washington DC um while people are

23:05 being slaughtered in trenches you know

23:08 it's like you're not feeling the pain

23:10 exactly you're not taking the risk it's

23:11 someone else dying that's like that's

23:14 that's cruel and lacking in empathy um

23:17 and and all Trump was saying was that

23:19 it's like Liz cheny would be much Liz

23:22 cheny would be much less of a warmonger

23:23 because she's a huge warmonger just like

23:25 her dad um if uh she actually had had to

23:28 go to the front lines and fight herself

23:30 and meanwhile they're saying that he

23:31 should he's saying she should be shot

23:33 yes which is a total lie but I had like

23:37 tons of people call me this weekend

23:38 saying oh Trump says he's going to put

23:40 Liz train in a firing squad I'm like

23:42 that is an outrageous lie and the Legacy

23:45 Media ran with that lie big time yeah

23:48 it's crazy it's it's just wild to see

23:50 and if it wasn't for Twitter or X now I

23:53 don't think we would know about all this

23:54 stuff I I think it would be very

23:56 difficult for you I think YouTube

23:58 throttled they did something weird they

24:00 won't say what they did but they did

24:01 something weird with the Trump interview

24:03 that I did yeah where you couldn't find

24:04 it it doesn't make sense like like made

24:07 no sense I mean it's like the it was

24:09 like the biggest interview on Earth yeah

24:11 and you can't find it yeah not only that

24:13 it wasn't trending it wasn't

24:15 trending it wasn't trending it wasn't

24:18 trending you're

24:21 like like this just no excuse for that

24:23 man no excuse there's no excuse it was

24:24 getting a million views 1 Point what was

24:27 it 1.4 an hour one point in time 1.5 an

24:30 hour yeah and it wasn't trending yeah

24:32 like and and it's like it's it's like

24:34 your channel is a known channel it's not

24:35 it's not like it was started yesterday

24:37 it's like yeah it's like this is a high

24:41 trust yours is a high trust channel it's

24:42 like like you're not trying to sell scam

24:45 crypto coins or something you know um so

24:48 well thank God we put it on X as well

24:50 because I think just with your account

24:51 and my account alone it's like 70

24:53 million views yeah exactly yeah well

24:56 it's like you can't hide things anymore

24:58 because of you and if it wasn't for you

25:00 I think they would have had total

25:01 control of social media by now they

25:03 would have th they they banned so many

25:05 accounts during the pandemic so many

25:07 dissenting scientists and doctors and

25:10 Physicians they banned so many

25:12 conspiracy theorists so many people that

25:14 colored Outside the Lines they would

25:16 have done that everywhere and it it

25:18 probably would have P I think even at

25:20 what's going on at Facebook they're

25:22 they're being more lenient you know you

25:23 hear Zuckerberg talking about taking a

25:26 more libertarian stance that's entirely

25:28 reaction to the way Twitter has kind of

25:31 moved the watermark exactly so um as

25:35 soon as as soon as any company steps out

25:37 of line and is willing to actually have

25:39 the truth debated on their platform it

25:40 forces the other platforms to allow

25:42 things to be more truthful to to not

25:46 censor because their censorship becomes

25:48 glaringly obvious yes um yes and you

25:51 know the the the best thing I found for

25:54 as a rebuttal like if somebody if

25:55 there's a hoax is just go to the source

25:57 material you know if if you think if

25:59 somebody thinks uh you know oh you know

26:02 Trump said that that we should put Liz

26:04 Cheney in a firing squad I'm like let

26:06 let me send you a link to X so you can

26:08 watch his video that's the best way it's

26:11 it's don't don't take my opinion for it

26:13 don't take anyone's opinion for it go to

26:14 the source material and Community notes

26:16 yes and Community a community notes is

26:18 the best it's awesome it's incredible

26:20 because everybody gets checked yes

26:22 including me yeah um and with Community

26:25 notes the all the software is open

26:27 source and all the data is open source

26:30 so you can recreate any given note

26:33 independently that's amazing yeah that's

26:35 how it's total absolute transparency in

26:38 every way um you know sometimes I get I

26:41 get asked like oh y can you remove a

26:43 note you know mostly by the left but

26:45 sometimes by the right I'm like I'm like

26:47 I don't even remove remove notes on my

26:49 own account nothing and and and by the

26:51 way everything is totally open so if I

26:53 did that it would stick out like a sore

26:55 thumb immediately like it's not going to

26:57 be subtle is the best counter to

27:00 misinformation yes absolutely like let

27:02 everybody look at it and say okay here's

27:04 what the actual facts say yes exactly

27:07 the counter to misinformation is better

27:08 information not just that but having it

27:11 checked in real time by the community so

27:13 you have millions of people that can go

27:14 over it and debate whether or not this

27:17 is true or that's true yes and and just

27:19 and like I said the best way to

27:21 understand the truth of things is don't

27:23 take anyone's opinion for it look at the

27:24 source material you know so it's like

27:27 look at what someone actually said look

27:28 at what someone actually did look at the

27:30 real videos of the situation and and

27:32 then you can actually you'll know what's

27:34 real so as of today when you were

27:38 literally on your way here you sent me

27:39 this text saying that they're trying to

27:41 lock you up in jail Pennsylvania tell me

27:43 what the is happening well you know

27:46 there's the classic sort of Soros da

27:48 situation um so we we're making a lot of

27:51 progress in Pennsylvania so uh you know

27:53 I've been I've given a whole bunch of

27:55 talks in throughout the the state

27:57 because psylvia is the Lynch pen in this

27:59 election you know whoever wins

28:00 Pennsylvania wins the election so um so

28:04 I've been giving to I spent three years

28:06 in Pennsylvania I went to college in in

28:08 Philadelphia so um so it's not like I'm

28:11 not a total I'm not a total stranger to

28:13 the state you know I spent three years

28:14 there um and

28:17 um and and we you know we we we we've

28:19 organized this uh petition in support of

28:22 the Constitution um which I think is a

28:25 good thing um and and specifically

28:28 asking people to uh and and and we

28:31 wanted this to be like um registered

28:35 voters in swing States like basically we

28:37 want to send a message to the

28:38 politicians to say that the people care

28:40 about the Constitution because there

28:42 have been all these attacks on the

28:43 Constitution they've been especially on

28:45 the Democrat side they've been

28:46 repeatedly saying that that the that the

28:48 first amendment is an obstacle because

28:51 and they're claiming oh the first

28:52 amendment is is is enabling dis

28:54 disinformation misinformation and I'm

28:56 like yo there's a reason for the first

28:58 Amendment like freedom of speech the

29:00 reason they the founders of the country

29:03 put you know the freedom of speech there

29:05 is because they came from countries

29:06 where if you spoke your mind you would

29:08 get shot or imprisoned that's why the

29:11 First Amendment exists and the Second

29:13 Amendment is there to stop the tney of

29:15 government the Second Amendment the

29:17 right to bear arms is there to protect

29:20 freedom of

29:21 speech

29:23 um you know um

29:29 you know and I've had these debates

29:31 especially with people in LA because

29:32 they're they're like want to take

29:33 everyone's guns away and I'm like

29:35 yo can you guarantee me that the

29:38 government that we will never have a

29:40 tyrannical government in the in the

29:41 United States can you can you make that

29:43 guarantee they're like well nobody can

29:45 make that guarantee I'm like then we

29:47 need to keep our guns because that's the

29:49 that's what's going to stop it that

29:51 sounds crazy for people to hear because

29:53 they think about gun violence and gun

29:55 problems and gun this and gun that but

29:58 that's the reality of the world that we

30:00 live in is that tyranny is possible and

30:02 it exists other places and it's slowly

30:05 existing it's slowly rearing its head in

30:08 the UK you're you're seeing I I think

30:11 the the number of people that have been

30:13 arrested for just social media uh posts

30:16 is bananas it's in the thousands yes

30:18 several thousand people have been have

30:20 been given prison sentences sentences in

30:22 the UK for social media posts that where

30:25 there was no explicit link to actual

30:28 violence but they just said it

30:29 encouraged violence like well did anyone

30:31 actually do anything as a result of that

30:33 media post well no but they they just

30:36 and and then they have a prison

30:38 overcrowding situation in the UK so they

30:40 quite literally releasing convicted

30:43 pedophiles and putting people in jail

30:45 for Facebook posts that's an actual

30:48 thing happening in Britain that is so

30:51 wild like it's you're like so wild the

30:55 you know is going on and what's

30:56 insane to me fiction again yeah you know

30:59 but it's all being encouraged by the

31:01 left kangi Brown Jackson John

31:04 KY johnry was one of the people who said

31:06 that he's on camera re like a few weeks

31:09 ago saying that the first amendment is a

31:11 pro is an obstacle to fighting

31:13 misinformation yeah that's crazy that's

31:15 such a crazy thing to say when you have

31:16 a solution in community notes you have a

31:19 solution in something like that that

31:21 could clear everything up any confusion

31:22 within a day or two and and even without

31:24 a community note you can reply to a post

31:26 and with with evidence that that that

31:28 shows that the post is wrong you don't

31:30 even need Community notes I mean

31:31 Community notes is helpful because it

31:32 sticks to the original note yes but in

31:34 the replies you can say here's why

31:36 you're wrong here are the reasons and

31:37 here's the evidence the argument is that

31:39 people are too unsophisticated that

31:42 they're not going to research these

31:44 things they're going to be a victim of

31:45 misinformation so they're going to read

31:47 something it's incorrect they're going

31:48 to run with it people are going to die

31:51 people are going to we're going to ruin

31:52 the world because people believed in

31:54 misinformation it's a stupid argument

31:55 it's a stupid argument because it's an

31:57 argument that they're too dumb to know

31:58 what's right or wrong you if you know

32:00 cuz you're saying it's misinformation

32:02 why do you think that you're smarter

32:04 than everybody who reads that exactly

32:06 and obviously anyone on the X system uh

32:08 knows that things are posted and then

32:10 there are replies and there are bules

32:12 and it's immediately corrected but where

32:14 are the corrections for the Legacy Media

32:15 right you know when when if um you know

32:18 some broadcast media they they they they

32:21 they said St say false things all the

32:23 time but it's a one-way Street there's

32:25 no rebuttal there's no counter right you

32:27 know there who's apologized for being

32:30 incorrect about what did Rachel mat ever

32:33 apologize for telling everybody that if

32:35 you get the covid vaccine you're never

32:36 going to get Co it won't the virus stops

32:38 with you never no one ever it's just it

32:41 was not true at the time there was no

32:42 evidence to support it at the time it's

32:44 pure propaganda and she said it the

32:46 Russia gate hoax the for three

32:49 years they said that he was Putin's toy

32:52 and that Putin had him compromised the

32:54 steel dossier steel dosier was

32:55 completely fabricated by a lawyer poins

32:58 koi um uh who was paid by the Clinton

33:01 campaign literally crazy and still

33:03 people think the Russia hoax is real and

33:05 there's no repercussions no one had to

33:07 apologize Hillary could never came out

33:09 and apologize for that and people still

33:11 listen to her the whole thing is crazy

33:13 and it's all coming from the left which

33:15 growing up as a a person who was in the

33:17 left my whole life it doesn't make any

33:19 sense same same I mean I I I I

33:21 even I I I was on the left until like

33:24 three years

33:25 ago like I I mean you know it's not the

33:29 left anymore it's not the left anymore

33:31 it's just like I think we obviously want

33:34 I mean I I I believe like we want

33:36 freedom like like we want we want to

33:39 maximize person personal Liberty uh I

33:42 think we want we want to be kind to

33:43 people you know we want to have empathy

33:46 uh and um but but it's very important to

33:49 have personal freedom and a merit based

33:51 society on the left is is wants

33:55 to oppress your freedoms especially

33:57 freedom speech um and they want to they

34:00 want to have a non-m marit based society

34:02 you know with race based and sex based

34:04 preferences and it's like well wait a

34:06 second no we just want people to succeed

34:08 based on their skills and their hard

34:09 work and if they don't want people to

34:12 express themselves about particular

34:13 issues then they're not doing the will

34:15 of the people and if they're trying to

34:16 suppress people's ability to communicate

34:18 they're only doing that because they

34:19 want to do things that people don't want

34:21 them to do and they want to silence

34:23 opposition that's all it is and the fact

34:26 that people can't see that they want to

34:28 call Trump a

34:29 fascist the whole thing is through the

34:32 Looking Glass it's just I mean it's like

34:33 one hoax after another that that they're

34:35 perpetrating against Trump I me like

34:36 they try to call the the rally at

34:38 Madison Square Gardens Like A Nazi rally

34:39 I'm like yo there was like literally an

34:42 Israeli flag in the audience um I think

34:44 like a quarter of the speakers were

34:46 Jewish like there was like there were

34:47 people of every race color creed

34:49 religion at that at that rally like tell

34:51 me what about that is Nazi no and yet it

34:54 was portrayed as a Nazi rally MSNBC they

34:57 they literally showed video of the Nazi

34:59 Rally from 1930s and then compared it to

35:01 the Trump rally now ignoring the fact

35:04 that Jimmy Carter spoke there

35:07 there have been dozens of political

35:08 rallies at medicine Square Gardens

35:10 dozens on the on the Democrat side like

35:12 people and people on X like and here's

35:15 exactly here's Jimmy Carter and here's

35:17 Bill Clinton and here's wait a second

35:20 actually it looks like uh every

35:21 presidential candidate has done a uh on

35:24 the Democrat side has done a rally at

35:25 mass square gardens are they Nazis too

35:28 but what they're doing is they're

35:29 praying on lwi information voters who

35:31 aren't engaged actively on social media

35:33 who don't have the time to look through

35:36 everything exactly yeah like people are

35:39 living if people are just on looking at

35:41 Legacy mainstream media then they have a

35:43 totally different worldview than if

35:44 they're on X uh and and seeing the the

35:46 actual flow of argument yes and the

35:48 actual evidence well what was the push

35:51 back like what happened when you guys

35:53 released the Twitter files cuz I think

35:55 the Twitter files is probably one of the

35:56 most important things in this age of

35:58 information for understanding the

36:00 influence that government has on social

36:02 media and and on discourse because when

36:05 when we found out that that was the case

36:06 that the government was actually asking

36:09 Twitter to remove posts that were

36:10 factual did they did the same thing to

36:12 Facebook they had them throttle pieces

36:15 of one of Tucker Carlson's show they

36:17 they suppress the views by 50% yeah of

36:20 factual information yeah no there was

36:22 there was massive government

36:23 interference in Twitter um but but like

36:25 Twitter welcomed it that's important to

36:27 old Twitter welcomed it uh I mean TW old

36:31 Twitter was controlled by by far-left

36:34 activists yeah so uh and and uh they

36:39 they welcomed the Govern interference

36:41 the Govern they got paid by the

36:42 government for it that's crazy they got

36:44 paid for their time correct yeah they

36:46 got paid millions of dollars for for

36:47 suppressing information so it's like

36:49 Bill and a bunch of it was like flat out

36:50 illegal like the FBI had this like this

36:53 this this sort of magic portal into the

36:54 Twitter system uh and and but all of the

36:58 communication in that sort in this

37:00 portal was autod deleted after two weeks

37:02 which breaks Federal Foy laws so we

37:05 don't even know what was said because it

37:06 was all deleted after two weeks that's

37:08 insane yeah that's so crazy it's so

37:11 crazy that people thought that was okay

37:12 it's not super not okay no it's super

37:15 not okay it's unconstitutional and no

37:17 one would want that no one would want

37:19 the government to have that kind of

37:21 access exactly and what was the blowback

37:24 like when all that stuff got released

37:27 like you had to anticipate that there

37:29 was going to be problems when you when

37:31 you release that like what was what

37:33 happened well we got a lot of we we did

37:36 lose a lot of advertising dollars um

37:40 and um which is crazy because it's

37:42 essentially like one of the most

37:44 important forms of Journalism is

37:45 exposing government corruption yes I

37:48 mean this is the weird weird thing it's

37:50 like the left used to be uh big big on

37:53 exposing government corruption but now

37:55 but once they control the government

37:56 they no longer want to EXP the

37:57 government corruption right they want to

38:00 pretend that the leftwing government's

38:01 incapable of corruption cuz we're on the

38:03 good side I I think it maybe just like

38:06 you know whoever's in power kind of

38:08 doesn't want the you know the other side

38:11 hurt um because as you pointed out like

38:14 the left historically up until I don't

38:17 know maybe even 10 years ago or

38:19 something like that um was the Free

38:21 Speech party and now it's the anti-free

38:24 speech party and they just they use they

38:26 use words like

38:28 like oh we have to be against hate

38:30 speech and misinformation

38:32 disinformation but these are propaganda

38:34 words you know it's like uh well who's

38:37 defining hate speech who's defining

38:38 misinformation the government do you

38:40 really trust the government to make that

38:42 definition

38:44 um the whole point of the of the first

38:47 amendment is like you do not trust the

38:49 government well especially when they're

38:51 wrong and then there's no repercussions

38:54 yeah like with the whole Lab leak theory

38:56 if you get you would get kicked off of

38:58 YouTube if you even presented this

39:01 argument that hey maybe that Corona

39:03 virus lab where they're doing work on

39:05 the exact same virus that got released

39:08 yep hey maybe that's where it came from

39:10 since that's where the virus started

39:11 what do you think guys yeah they kick

39:13 you right off of YouTube yeah um yes

39:17 exactly it's like do you think maybe the

39:20 it could have come from the place called

39:22 the novel Corona virus Research

39:24 Institute that John Stewart bit that he

39:26 did on coar was amazing what does it say

39:28 on the door again uh can I see you a

39:30 business

39:31 card and to see coar like resisting it

39:35 with every fiber of his what's going to

39:37 happen to us he was totally

39:39 blocking the bit to the point where John

39:40 Stewart got off his chair and started

39:43 walking around to try to take control

39:46 yeah good on John and then the left

39:47 tried to cancel John Stewart of course

39:49 meanwhile he was right he right and no

39:51 apologies no apologies yeah and you know

39:55 the whole fouchy thing like any

39:56 criticism of fouchy it's like an

39:59 freaking demon if you ask me if you read

40:02 rfk's book if the real Anthony fouchy if

40:04 that's correct if the facts are in there

40:07 that's true it's all referenced you

40:08 could find the sources and on top of it

40:10 he's never been sued for that book which

40:12 doesn't make any sense if he just made a

40:14 bunch of Lies up he would get sued yes

40:16 so the guy's a monster I think so yeah I

40:18 think so too yeah yeah yeah yeah I think

40:21 like just looking at the lies that he

40:24 told the way he tried to Define gain of

40:26 function research to ran Paul but he I

40:30 think a lot maybe a lot of people out

40:31 there don't realize Fouch he funded the

40:34 the the the bioweapons research that was

40:36 going on in in Wuhan and he he Bank

40:38 shotted off like he can't send the money

40:40 directly to China he just bankshot it

40:41 off Eco Health right this just like fake

40:44 nonprofit in the US and they sent it to

40:46 Wuhan and Obama put the skids on that he

40:48 stopped that in 2014 yes I mean so you

40:50 know um to to give Obama throw Obama

40:53 give Obama some credit he actually was

40:55 like looking at this and say hey this is

40:56 crazy and uh we need and he so he he

41:00 actually did uh stop the like like the

41:04 so-called G gain of function again a

41:05 propaganda word uh because what is the

41:08 function they're talking about death

41:11 right right so if if if you actually use

41:15 the right word this is gain of function

41:18 is death

41:19 maximization right then you're like oh

41:22 oh hey guys should refund uh uh

41:25 bioweapon Research into death

41:26 maximization

41:27 cuz that's what gain of function means

41:29 yeah it means the function making a

41:31 disease so that people can get it give

41:33 it to people and by the way what's that

41:36 function again oh the function is death

41:38 okay so just call it a death maximizing

41:39 virus if you're doing research on that

41:42 and the idea behind this research is so

41:44 that we can cure these things how come

41:46 you don't have a cure start with

41:48 a start with a cure cure first disease

41:50 second it doesn't make any sense like

41:52 you guys had no strategy for dealing

41:54 with it if it got out and so you have to

41:56 like make up this this new vaccine in

42:00 like record time operation warp speed

42:02 released to the people with very little

42:04 testing it's crazy it was crazy

42:07 the whole thing's crazy and everybody

42:08 just went along with it Looney Tunes

42:10 Next Level well it's the scop was

42:12 fascinating to watch people step in line

42:14 that's like one of the biggest SS of all

42:15 time of all time of all time and

42:18 everybody got in line and when you take

42:21 it back to when pharmaceutical drug

42:23 companies were able to advertise on

42:25 media in the 1990s that Chang

42:28 one of two countries the whole that

42:30 allows this and because of that because

42:33 we don't have socialized medicine it's a

42:35 complete profit scam and they went hard

42:38 claiming all sorts of things that were

42:41 never researched all sorts of things

42:42 that not supported by data like the fact

42:44 that it would stop transmission the fact

42:46 that it would stop infection the fact

42:48 that it was safe for pregnant women the

42:49 fact that it was safe for children all

42:51 of its yes and they pushed it

42:53 on the whole world and if you didn't say

42:56 that at a cocktail party you were a

42:57 pariah yes and you were an antivaxer it

43:00 was totally psycho it was like being a

43:02 Holocaust in hour you get kicked out of

43:04 polite Society exactly bananas

43:07 and I should say like I'm actually

43:09 generally Pro vaccine overall you know I

43:11 think we should look at these things

43:13 that but that but I believe in the

43:15 scientific method so so you have a

43:18 blanket except anything you have a

43:20 blanket except that any any given

43:22 medication or any given treatment is is

43:24 is 100% good you should always be it

43:26 with some skepticism especially when

43:28 you're getting the data from

43:29 pharmaceutical drug companies that have

43:31 like a long history of criminal got a

43:33 Ved interest conduct yes they've got a

43:35 vested interest in the research it's

43:38 sort of like asking tobacco companies

43:39 about you know whether smoking it's

43:42 dangerous you know exactly the same

43:43 thing like God according to our

43:45 scientists everything's fine yeah they

43:47 lied in court forever the same thing

43:48 they do with oxycoton when they said

43:50 that it wasn't addictive like they have

43:52 a long history of being full of if

43:54 it makes them money and that's what they

43:56 do that's their business they've

43:57 literally lost multi-billion dollar

43:59 lawsuits in this massive massive they're

44:01 in the you have amazing scientists right

44:05 you have these clinical researchers

44:06 these people that developed these

44:07 incredible drugs and they this is their

44:10 job their job is to figure out some new

44:13 way to cure something some new way to

44:15 stop things and then you have the money

44:17 people sure and the problem is when you

44:19 have this one thing that you would

44:22 assume they're only doing it to help

44:23 people and then they have this other

44:25 faction that they're all just numbers

44:27 people and all they give a about is

44:29 maximizing profits and making sure they

44:31 literally have a an obligation to their

44:34 shareholders they have to make the most

44:36 amount of money possible and so they

44:37 just want to push it on everybody regard

44:40 like the vioc Scandal there's internal

44:42 emails showing they knew there was going

44:44 to be cardiovascular events people were

44:45 going to get strokes and they're like I

44:47 think we're still going to do well and

44:49 they did they made like 12 billion

44:51 dollars they got fined seven and 50 to

44:54 60,000 people died holy yeah one of

44:57 them was a friend of mine got a stroke

44:59 and died yeah no he didn't die he lived

45:01 but he was a really healthy guy aned the

45:04 same after yeah NE problems and he took

45:06 Vio and all a sudden he was slurring his

45:08 words and he couldn't concentrate and

45:10 people like I think you're having a

45:11 stroke and they took him to the

45:12 hospital and then then you have this

45:14 giant class action lawsuit then Vio gets

45:16 pulled from the market and they get sued

45:18 and the whole thing's crazy but

45:20 there's a long history of this I think

45:23 what did what is the number like

45:24 onethird of the drugs that the FDA

45:26 approves gets pulled it's

45:28 bananas that is crazy that's crazy

45:31 you're shitty at onethird of the things

45:33 that you say are okay but yet you're

45:35 trying to stop MDMA therapy for veterans

45:39 yeah they should let MDMA through

45:40 honestly that think that actually help a

45:42 lot of people it would help a lot of

45:44 people help a lot of people there's a

45:46 lot of different therapies specifically

45:48 psilocybin iag the fact you have to go

45:50 to Mexico to get ibaan therapy for

45:53 veterans so many guys I've talked to

45:55 have gone over there and it's like

45:57 completely giving them a a clean slate

45:59 refresh their mind and totally new

46:02 perspective on life alleviated

46:03 depression cured addictions illegal yeah

46:07 illegal oxycotton go get it yeah um and

46:12 I know some people who like their their

46:14 life was ruined by oxyon you know oh

46:16 yeah because uh I mean it it really

46:17 depends on on you know somebody in

46:19 individual biochemistry um like to me

46:21 like like um opioids are not addictive

46:23 to me like I you know I've had them when

46:25 I've had operations or something and uh

46:28 they they they're they barely affect the

46:30 my pain level and they make me like

46:32 itchy and uncomfortable they make me

46:35 stupid exactly but but I'm like so so

46:39 like like I could never get addicted to

46:41 alcohol or or opioids it's just

46:43 impossible like because my biochemistry

46:45 just does not have like but I love tasty

46:48 food feel like you know you know if if

46:50 if there's I'm addicted to tasty food

46:53 sure um but like there can be like I

46:56 have a whole of of alcohol it's there

46:58 for decoration I never done sh basically

47:00 I feel the same way I could easily quit

47:02 alcohol I mean I'll go weeks without

47:04 having a drink and doesn't bother me at

47:05 all but I know some people they have one

47:06 drink and they're Off to the Races and

47:08 that's the difference in the the

47:09 biochemical differences that we all have

47:12 yeah I mean I think that's the case with

47:14 a lot of addictions I'm not addicted to

47:15 gambling but I get it I see it I've seen

47:17 it in people but I'm I'm I have this

47:20 aversion to things that I know are going

47:21 to ruin my life like i' I see it that's

47:24 why I've never tried cocaine I just saw

47:26 too many people

47:27 it looks too fun like I don't want to

47:29 get involved yeah I mean I mean I think

47:31 generally for any given uh drug legal or

47:34 illegal you could the question is can

47:37 you complete the following sentence

47:39 blank made me a better

47:40 [Laughter]

47:42 person like I've never heard anyone say

47:44 meth made them a better person or

47:46 cocaine made them a better person no

47:48 ever um made a lot of soldiers better I

47:51 think that's yeah I mean if you're doing

47:54 if you're like if your soldiers need to

47:56 for three days in a row yeah it it's

48:00 really is effective at that you know um

48:03 yeah people give like France a hard time

48:06 about you know capitulating in World War

48:08 II but but you know what's what's worse

48:10 than the Nazis Nazis on meth me up Nazis

48:14 they they're not stopping Norman they

48:16 Six Bullets they're like they're they're

48:18 still coming that book over there

48:20 blitzed is all about the use of

48:23 methamphetamines and the different drugs

48:25 that they gave their soldiers the guys

48:26 the front of the line they gave the most

48:27 meth yes they have different dosages

48:30 yeah I mean you just basically think

48:33 you're un vulnerable on meth and uh so

48:35 so it's one thing like I said it's one

48:37 thing be you know have have like the

48:40 Nazis coming after you but Nazis on meth

48:41 you're like holy those are

48:42 not stopping man for three days they're

48:45 not stopping it's so crazy yeah that's

48:47 not a statement meth may be a better

48:49 person that you hear very often I've

48:50 never heard that before no you hear a

48:51 lot of like siloc iban Advocates you

48:53 hear a lot of people that talk about

48:55 psychedelics I exactly I've actually

48:57 heard many people say that uh LSD or you

49:01 know mushrooms or uh MDMA made them a

49:04 better person many people yeah so that's

49:07 why I'm like I think a rule for the FDA

49:10 should be like hey look um if you can

49:11 complete the sentence legal or legal

49:13 that um blank made you a better person

49:16 actually yeah uh then then you got a

49:19 good drug and if you you can't you got a

49:21 bad drug also if there's drugs that are

49:23 available right now that can absolutely

49:25 ruin people's lives

49:27 this the the rationalization for

49:29 stopping other drugs that might ruin

49:31 people's lives but also can help a lot

49:32 of people's lives it doesn't make any

49:34 sense right you're you're you're B it's

49:35 basically the same thing as censorship

49:37 you're taking away people's ability to

49:39 discern what's true and not true and

49:41 you're taking away people's ability to

49:43 discern what's good for you and not good

49:44 for you and the way to find that out is

49:46 to have as much information as possible

49:48 so to do research and actually to have

49:52 unbiased actual objective observers who

49:55 are looking at all this stuff that give

49:56 you real data yes and the opposite of

49:59 that or the count of that is like if you

50:01 don't do that you're empowering cartels

50:04 yes that's the whole reason why they

50:06 have all that money it's because it's

50:08 illegal to sell these drugs in America

50:11 the demand is never going away so

50:13 instead of like limiting the amount of

50:15 drugs now you've got toxic drugs CU

50:18 Fentanyl and all this other has

50:20 been because they're not pure so you're

50:21 just killing people you're not saving

50:23 anybody by protecting them from

50:25 themselves true

50:27 but it's a tricky situation because what

50:29 do you do like if you just like say okay

50:31 now everyone can sell all these people

50:33 that have been selling boner pills now

50:35 you can sell meth like holy you get

50:39 you get you get the the the the the

50:41 double

50:42 combo the VRA it's the VRA andth right

50:46 Jesus Christ oh my god oh my god well I

50:49 mean how many people already doing that

50:51 right now

50:52 with there's a lot of people out there

50:55 that are essentially on M

50:57 especially people that abuse adol

51:00 they're basically amphetamin up all day

51:02 long yeah adol is low-grade infomine

51:05 yeah um so um

51:08 the and like I actually seen people like

51:12 become much worse people if they take

51:14 too much ader all like much worse you

51:15 know it's it's like an anger amplifier

51:17 so there um now now I'm not saying like

51:20 adol is something like where there's

51:22 there are pluses and minuses it's not a

51:23 clearcut issue um it does help some

51:25 people a great deal

51:27 um and uh but but in in higher doses man

51:30 that that stuff I've seen people turn

51:32 into just raging monsters on on high

51:34 doses about rle just they're they're

51:37 just angry like extremely angry all the

51:40 time yeah they're messed up yeah that's

51:43 what happens if you take myth it's crazy

51:46 you turn it like myth turns you into a

51:48 freaking rage demon and so and so many

51:51 prescriptions I'm like Jesus we we

51:54 googled it like one year there was like

51:55 39 million prescriptions for adal in

51:58 this country oh yeah yeah like once in a

52:00 while there's like an adal shortage and

52:01 like there's like watch Widespread Panic

52:03 you know and then what do people do and

52:05 then it's the same thing as like when

52:07 they tried to like limit the amount of

52:08 oxyc content will people go to Street

52:10 heroin and if you're addicted to Aderall

52:13 and your dealer the guy who sells you

52:15 weed is like hey man I can get you like

52:16 like lowgrade meth like the stuff the

52:18 Nazis took well that they had IG grade

52:21 myth actually they had pharmaceutical

52:22 grade it was they had epic epic myth it

52:25 was like made by the like pharmaceutical

52:27 grade myth is going to be if like this

52:30 this I mean I mean you just look at the

52:32 freaking U Online Wikipedia page but

52:35 there's like many different versions of

52:36 math like not all the same um and and

52:38 they have different effects um so but

52:41 but like pharmaceutical grade pure meth

52:43 you are going to be oh my God super

52:45 productive super productive for a

52:47 certain period of time and and you're

52:49 not going to sleep for a while and uh

52:52 and and then you you will you will have

52:53 some anger management issues um so like

52:57 uh they actually the the nazzi they did

53:00 actually

53:02 um uh go roll back how much meth they

53:05 were using because they had they had

53:08 quite a few incidents of of the of the

53:10 soldiers killing their officers because

53:13 they were on too much meth Jesus Christ

53:16 they would yeah so they would shoot that

53:20 to many um officer got fragged by the by

53:22 the you know the their platoon that was

53:25 on too much meth because they that

53:27 happened quite a few

53:29 times like you just when someone's on a

53:31 lot of meth they're they're they're

53:35 they're very they can get very angry did

53:36 you ever pay attention to when John

53:38 McAfee was uh cooking meth in a lab in

53:42 his backyard I me MC is quite a

53:44 character he was a character character

53:47 we had him on the podcast when he was on

53:48 the run so he called in from an

53:50 undisclosed location when he was running

53:52 from where was he Costa Rica is that

53:54 where he was B bise right so when he was

53:57 running from the authorities he called

53:59 in we had him on the podcast on the run

54:02 and uh I was asking him about these

54:03 posts like CU there was an online

54:06 account that was linked to him where he

54:08 had this very detailed laboratory like

54:11 super sophisticated making the best math

54:14 like a super genius cooking math I I

54:17 mean I think he like had like he had his

54:19 lab like he was making like a wide range

54:21 of drugs uh and there was like I I

54:25 talked to uh actually like a a reporter

54:30 um who who went down and like uh

54:33 interviewed him in bise um and and por

54:37 said man that's one of the scariest

54:38 things he's like he he was he was quite

54:40 terrified so like one of the things like

54:43 maffy he had I guess this trick where he

54:46 would he would play a Russian roulette

54:47 with himself uh so so he'd put a bullet

54:50 in in the revolver and they spin the

54:52 spin the chamber and clearly he had like

54:54 some like trick to you know know it was

54:57 not there's

54:59 some you know way that he knows it's not

55:01 the right bullet but but I do Wonder

55:03 like if if mcff is high and he does that

55:05 he's not always going to get the trick

55:06 right you know do you sure he had a

55:08 trick or maybe so yeah yeah so so so

55:10 according to this reporter um when he

55:13 went to visit maffy in bise uh maffy

55:16 took out the revolver put a put a a

55:17 bullet in the revolver spun the chamber

55:19 and then pointed at his head and went

55:21 click and the report is like saying

55:22 please don't do this like this is insane

55:24 click click click and then pointed to

55:28 the gun at the ground and ni went click

55:29 bang and shot shot a bullet in the

55:31 ground Jesus that's a hell of a potty

55:33 trick

55:34 jeez it's the next level party that's

55:37 the guy who seen the deer hunter too

55:38 many times he yes remember that scene

55:41 when they were forcing yes yeah woo

55:43 that's a heavy scene that was a heavy

55:45 scene dairo and Christopher Walkin

55:46 that's one of the greatest scenes in any

55:47 movie ever I remember watching that

55:49 scene just like clawing at my pants

55:53 like Maka was a wild boy wild and you

55:57 created brilliant anti virus software

56:00 yeah yeah he may have made some of the

56:02 viruses too you think so well didn't he

56:06 like give laptops to a bunch of

56:08 government organizations with viruses on

56:10 yeah so that he could like pay ATT to

56:12 what they were doing yeah I I wouldn't

56:16 be surprised if somebody whacked that

56:17 guy I don't know what happened to him

56:18 but I he would be a guy that would be

56:20 like this guy is a little bit too

56:23 loose I probably had sensitive

56:25 information I don't know um for sure he

56:27 did u i mean I found him to be an

56:29 interesting guy I mean like I'm

56:31 generally like feel like like if

56:33 somebody's not harming someone else they

56:35 should be okay now now there is some

56:39 suggestion that maffy like killed his

56:40 neighbor in bise um

56:43 yeah so probably did maybe the neighbor

56:46 was a douchebag I think he probably did

56:47 seems like he probably did seem like the

56:49 neighbor killed his dog yes right and

56:51 then it seems like he killed the

56:52 neighbor yeah allegedly yeah I mean it

56:55 seems it seems likely it's not a zero

56:57 possibility it's not definitely not zero

57:00 it's seem more than not he's a methed up

57:03 wild man playing Russian roulette hey

57:04 maybe you kill your neighbor yes

57:07 I mean if somebody killed your dog you'd

57:08 be really inclined to kill them too yeah

57:10 somebody killed your squirrel John Wick

57:13 yeah the squirrel thing is

57:15 bananas yeah that squirrel thing squirr

57:17 thing I so here's the thing about the

57:20 the the whole squirrel thing is is that

57:23 um how can it be that we live in America

57:25 uh supposedly land of the free and the

57:29 you know the government can barge into

57:30 your home with guns uh so if you resist

57:33 you're going to get shot um and then

57:36 take your your pets and execute them um

57:41 and if they can do that to your pets

57:43 what do you think they can do to

57:45 you I know that's not an exaggeration

57:48 absolutely it sounds like you're you're

57:51 oh that's so crazy how can you make that

57:52 connection but it's that's why would you

57:55 kill that cute little squirrel that was

57:57 obviously a pet and trained from the

57:58 time it was a baby if you see the

58:00 interaction that guy has with that

58:01 squirrel it was wonderful it was really

58:03 cute yes absolutely the there's it was

58:06 just obviously it was a blood pet pet

58:08 squirrel um and raccoon too um and doing

58:13 no har um and the the government comes

58:17 in barges into the guy's house takes his

58:20 pets and kills them

58:22 and you know I I think this should this

58:24 should really get people out there

58:26 mobilized frankly because um you know

58:29 you think you see like the John Wick

58:30 movie where John Wick's like you know he

58:33 he he wants to he just wants peace like

58:36 you know in in the Dr movie he just

58:37 wants he's like listen I want to retire

58:39 and they offer him like tons of money

58:41 like because they want him to be an

58:42 assassin to keep being an assassin like

58:44 they they like they they like offer him

58:46 tons of money they threaten him he's

58:47 like listen I'm not going to be I'm I'm

58:49 I'm out you know and they kill his dog

58:52 that was a bad idea

58:57 that was a really they killed a cute

58:58 little puppy and the puppy was his

59:00 ex-wife's gift to him when she died of

59:02 cancer yeah great movie great movie the

59:05 best revenge movie of all time cuz it's

59:08 so ridiculous he kills everybody yeah

59:10 kills everyone um and you're rooting for

59:13 him yeah they shouldn't have killed his

59:15 dog yeah they up and they

59:17 shouldn't have killed that squirrel they

59:18 shouldn't have killed that that

59:19 squirrel I

59:21 mean like how many how many cases have

59:24 we not heard about you know

59:27 a look at that little guy that squirrel

59:30 clearly had a love relationship with

59:33 that guy he would hop all over him and

59:35 climb on him I mean it was that was his

59:38 pet that that squirrel thought of that

59:40 man as his protector as his His

59:44 companion there was nothing wrong with

59:46 that and in Texas it's totally legal you

59:48 could have a zebra out here you

59:50 can have whatever you want and that's

59:52 the argument for freedom and you know

59:54 the flip side is you get a bunch of

59:55 people tigers in their backyard which is

59:57 not great it's like this was a

60:01 squirrel it's not it's not an anaconda

60:03 or right or or or you know you know

60:06 crocodile or something that's or a

60:07 chimpanzee did you see chimp crazy oh

60:09 man chimp chimp chimps will eat your

60:12 face okay they will you up they

60:14 will you and they don't even the

60:16 thing is they don't even kill you they

60:17 just you chimps don't even kill

60:19 people yeah which is really weird they

60:21 just bite your hands off and pite your

60:23 dick off and tear your face apart yes

60:25 they want to leave you they could kill

60:26 you easily if a chimp want to just punch

60:28 you in the head until you're dead it

60:30 wouldn't take long but they don't kill

60:31 you they just rip you apart yeah and you

60:35 can have a

60:36 chimp and so well he used to be able to

60:38 have a chimp in a lot of states and then

60:40 chimp crazy kind of exposed a lot of

60:42 that and Peta did a great job of

60:43 stopping people from keeping chimps as

60:45 pets because once they hit like five you

60:47 can't control them anymore what's OB

60:48 totally understandable if somebody's got

60:51 um you know a creature that is dangerous

60:53 to others but like obviously a a

60:54 squirrel and a raccoon are not well

60:56 squirrels are everywhere that's

60:58 what's so crazy like why can't you have

60:59 it in the house what kind of rules are

61:01 we dealing with you have rats everywhere

61:03 yeah um I mean they're they're they're

61:06 allowing criminals to go free and and

61:08 like violent criminals to go free but

61:09 they're like spending your tax dollars

61:11 to come in and execute your pets

61:13 what the hell is going on exactly and

61:14 and it's like um but it's overreach it's

61:19 it's govern overreach and and this just

61:21 keeps getting worse every year and

61:23 that's why that's why we've got to we

61:26 got to fight back against this um and

61:30 um you know it's people say like well

61:32 it's just a squirrel well was it was you

61:34 know in John Wick's case it was just a

61:36 dog

61:39 right yeah you know but well remember

61:41 the Russian guy said it's a dog

61:43 it's just a dog just a

61:46 squirrel

61:48 yeah well it's the the funniest thing is

61:50 when so it just I just don't understand

61:53 how anybody could justify it I don't

61:55 understand how any I it seems to me that

61:57 in a logical world all that guy would

61:58 have to do is say want to you see me

62:00 with this squirrel this squirrel's a pet

62:02 yeah like look he he hops on me he eats

62:05 he sleeps I can keep a Geral but I can't

62:07 keep a squirrel I can have a guinea pig

62:09 I can't have a squirrel I can have a

62:11 chinchilla my daughter has a chinchilla

62:13 it's adorable adorable little thing

62:15 climbs all over can't have a squirrel

62:18 even if they if they did take a squirrel

62:19 away couldn't they've released it into

62:20 the woods or something well it's a bit

62:23 the idea is you have to euthanize it

62:24 because it's used to being fed it

62:26 doesn't know how to forage it won't be

62:27 able to like find a home squirrels are

62:30 brutal squirrels are absolutely brutal

62:32 to each other they throw each other out

62:33 of trees which is one of the reasons why

62:35 squirrels like can fall from like 30

62:37 feet and just kind of bounce off the

62:39 ground and live it's like it's a a

62:41 natural adaptation because squirrels

62:43 during mating they bite each other they

62:45 there used to be like a rumor there was

62:48 a a myth that squirrels bite each

62:50 other's nuts off and okay that that

62:53 seems to be a myth but it came out of

62:56 the fact that squirrels are so ruthless

62:58 during mating so like one female is just

63:01 running away I have squirrels in my

63:02 backyard I watch it all the time one

63:04 female apparently goes into estris and

63:06 all the male squirrels fight to get to

63:08 her so they're running up trees and

63:10 chasing each other around trees

63:11 literally throwing each other off trees

63:14 to try to like have so if this poor

63:16 little peanut the squirrel who's used to

63:18 living with a guy in an apartment like

63:20 gets out there in the the wild world

63:22 well fair enough at least they have a

63:23 chance yeah at least he has a chance but

63:25 chance how about just leave him with the

63:27 guy yeah leave him with the guy for sure

63:28 what the is wrong with you why are

63:29 you killing that squirrel it doesn't

63:31 make any sense yeah and then to add

63:33 insult to injury there were a bunch of

63:34 people on the left who were like

63:36 actually posting that they're glad that

63:37 magga squirrel got killed which is

63:39 Mega squirrel like the squirrel

63:42 has an ideology it's a cute little

63:43 fluffy squirrel exactly well it's it's a

63:47 nice symbol because most most like

63:49 reasonable compassionate people think

63:51 that's terrible and most people who have

63:53 pets think it's terrible terrible

63:56 um so I don't know I mean I'm like I

63:58 hope people just go out there and vote

64:00 for peanut man if nothing else if

64:02 nothing else just V I vote for peanut

64:05 you know they've done such a job of

64:07 painting Trump as a monster you know

64:09 they've taken the worst things that he's

64:11 ever said in amp and he's not a perfect

64:12 person but guess what no one's a perfect

64:15 person they don't exist this purity test

64:17 like if Obama was a perfect person he

64:19 wouldn't be lying on stage about that

64:21 that you know very fine people hoax the

64:24 there's exactly no one's going to be a

64:26 perfect person but the thing that they

64:29 didn't understand about Trump is he's so

64:31 crazy that if you tell him like he can't

64:35 be president like remember Obama did

64:37 that during that White House Press

64:38 correspondence there's one thing that

64:40 I'm that I am that you'll never be

64:42 president of the United States you see

64:43 Trump in the audence going okay

64:44 you know funny thing is I

64:47 was actually um at that White House

64:50 Correspondence Dinner where you know

64:52 it's supposed to be a roast of the

64:53 President right uh Trump's there he's

64:56 there he's actually supporting uh you

64:58 know basically if you go to the the West

65:00 correspondent Center you're there uh in

65:02 support actually of the president and

65:04 support of the press right um and uh

65:07 it's meant to be you're roasting the

65:08 president like Trump's just there he's

65:10 like actually you know just he's like

65:12 there as part of the support and then

65:15 they they turned it around and just

65:16 started roasting Trump and he's just

65:18 sitting there I'm like he's like yo I

65:20 just came to the dinner I wasn't I'm

65:22 just here to support you know we know

65:24 what it was because of right the birther

65:26 stuff oh okay yeah that's what it all

65:28 was it was all Trump was at the head of

65:31 a a lot of these people spreading this

65:33 rumor online that Obama's birth

65:36 certificate was forged and he's actually

65:38 from Kenya what's weird is if you go

65:41 back to Obama's early days there are

65:43 some things that say he's from Kenya

65:46 like I think in his Co something from

65:49 college said he was from Kenya but you

65:51 know that could just be you know people

65:53 print things wrong all the time it

65:55 doesn't mean he's actually from Kenya

65:57 but Trump was one of those guys that was

66:00 like spreading that supposedly false

66:02 rumor why is he pushing it hard I'm not

66:04 this is the kind of thing where I want

66:05 to just go and look at saying what what

66:07 did he actually say no he definitely was

66:09 he was definitely saying you know look

66:11 he I don't think he has the time to go

66:14 into things like very deeply yeah and so

66:17 I think he could probably be influenced

66:20 by a bunch of people like these marjerie

66:21 Taylor green type people who come to him

66:23 with some wild ass theory true he might

66:26 be and I think there's a lot of that

66:28 stuff that gets fed to people on purpose

66:31 so that they'll say incorrect things so

66:33 that they're easy to dismiss and I think

66:36 uh there's also a lot of people that

66:37 just make up and you know they tell

66:39 you the Earth is flat and then a bunch

66:41 of people watch a YouTube video and they

66:42 believe it yeah well but on that White

66:45 House correspondence I was there and the

66:47 degree to which they attacked Trump in

66:50 that in that uh at that White House

66:52 corespond Center was really it was it

66:54 was so over the top it was like making

66:56 everyone uncomfortable really it was

66:59 really over the top you know I mean I

67:01 think like sort of a passing joke of

67:03 like you know

67:05 uh a few passing jokes are fine but but

67:08 they they Twisted the knife big on Trump

67:10 in that and and you could see Trump just

67:12 getting like angrier and angrier and and

67:14 more and more upset I wonder if and it's

67:16 like man this is this is not good karma

67:18 you know that's what I was thinking at

67:20 the time I'm look I L I was two two

67:21 tables away from Trump and I'm looking

67:23 I'm like man this is this is too much

67:25 you know well it's kind of crazy what

67:27 what they made out of that because

67:30 that's the kind of guy that if you tell

67:31 him he can't do something he's going to

67:33 just keep trying like what it was a big

67:35 mistake to rag on him so so much with

67:36 that White House correspond Center well

67:38 just look at the way they've attacked

67:39 him in ter with just using the legal

67:41 system like this thing in uh New York

67:44 where the 34 different felony counts

67:47 they were essentially misdemeanors that

67:49 there were book bookkeeping errors that

67:52 they decided even though it passed the

67:54 statue of limitations they to try him

67:56 for these they didn't identify a felony

67:58 abuse of the law is what's going on but

68:00 most people would have quit most people

68:03 after the een Carol lawsuit and this

68:05 lawsuit and all the other ones of their

68:07 the Insurrection thing the Georgia thing

68:09 all these different things they getting

68:10 kicked off a Twitter most people would

68:12 just like this is too much I can't take

68:13 this but he's so crazy he's like

68:16 all right come on we're going to war and

68:18 he just digs his heels in and

68:21 keeps going yeah it's it's the wrong guy

68:24 to do that too just like attacking him

68:27 at the White House Correspondence Dinner

68:28 most people been humiliated he got angry

68:31 he's like yeah all right say I G be

68:33 president I was think I've been thinking

68:34 about running for about 15 years

68:36 finally I'm going to run yeah yeah that

68:39 was a real bad

68:41 move um but yeah I mean I can certainly

68:44 understand like making some jokes about

68:45 like you

68:47 know a few sort of passing jokes on

68:49 Trump but man I was there at that dinner

68:51 and that they ragged on Trump so much it

68:53 was insane the reason why I would push

68:57 back on that cuz I would say there's a

68:59 bunch of different speakers right and

69:01 Trump would obviously be a Target and if

69:03 they all attacked him it's because he's

69:05 like if you're going to make fun of

69:06 people in the audience and especially in

69:08 the zeit guys that whole birther thing

69:11 was big and most people are dismissing

69:13 it as being a ridiculous conspiracy

69:15 theory so who the is this guy

69:17 saying this and so you have eight to 10

69:20 individual speakers that are writing

69:22 monologues of course they're all going

69:24 to hit Trump

69:26 yeah well anyway obviously it was a

69:28 mistake they shouldn't have done that

69:30 and and but like you buy people to watch

69:32 that original Source material and uh I

69:35 think a few jokes are fine you know it's

69:37 like but but it's like he shouldn't be

69:39 the like it felt like he was the primary

69:41 object of the roast yeah which is that's

69:43 that's not the whole point of the thing

69:44 is it's a roast of the president not

69:46 roast the audience the thing about it is

69:48 like he's easy to roast and then on top

69:50 of that Obama was like loved and

69:53 cherished by the left and most of those

69:55 people are on the left there's only so

69:57 far you can push you know you can't ask

70:00 him about a chef you know there like

70:03 what happen with the chef bro you can't

70:05 like certain things you can't bring up

70:06 you want

70:07 to what's your favorite sport paddle

70:09 boarding yeah is that guy wasn't that

70:11 guy a really good

70:13 swimmer tell me what happened you know

70:15 exactly you can't bring that up like if

70:17 you're going to roast Hillary you can't

70:19 bring up the death count like uh Hillary

70:21 what's the best way to stay in touch

70:22 email

70:25 yeah it's if you're doing one of those

70:27 you know she destroyed the servers and

70:29 poured like bleach on the servers like

70:30 like computers that's she poured bleach

70:32 on them that's what I saw yeah that's I

70:33 believe that's like it wasn't just like

70:35 they took a hammer to it they like

70:36 destroyed the like there was no possible

70:38 way to actually get forensics on the

70:40 thing what was in

70:43 there

70:44 like that's what I mean what was in

70:47 there what was in there why would they

70:48 care so much that's so crazy yeah the

70:51 whole thing is there was no there was no

70:53 legal action against that which is clear

70:55 to destruction of evidence well it's

70:56 also there's this other narrative that

70:58 always drives me crazy is that uh he's

71:00 going to destroy democracy so in order

71:03 to destroy democracy we have to install

71:05 a president without a primary we have to

71:07 have a candidate that is the least liked

71:11 vice president of all time the least

71:13 popular vice president of all time and

71:15 then use gaslighting and the full force

71:18 of the media machine to turn her into

71:20 the future and hope and then we're going

71:23 to this she's going to be changed even

71:24 though she's a sitting vice president

71:27 and then on top of that this idea of

71:28 change when the Democrats have been in

71:30 control for what 12 or 16 years right

71:33 which is crazy like this is the change

71:36 yeah I mean obviously I view this

71:37 election as a turning point um like a

71:40 folk in the road of destiny that is uh

71:42 incredibly important um you know I've

71:44 not I've not been politically active

71:46 until this election and the reason I've

71:48 been politically active this election is

71:49 because I think if we don't if we don't

71:52 elect Trump I think we I think we will

71:54 lose

71:55 uh we will we will lose democracy in

71:58 this country we will we will lose the

71:59 two-party system um and let me explain

72:02 why so there there's only like six six

72:05 or seven swing States the the margin of

72:07 victory in those States is small often

72:09 like 10 or 20,000 votes um what the the

72:12 Democrat Administration has been doing

72:14 is importing vast numbers of illegals

72:16 into swing States um you can look at the

72:18 numbers on the actual government uh

72:20 website meaning you don't take my word

72:22 for it you'll just look look at the

72:23 numbers as reported by the government

72:25 which is controlled by the Democrats um

72:27 and and what we've seeing is triple-

72:29 digit increases in the number of legals

72:31 in every swing state some cases 700%

72:34 increases these are these are gigantic

72:37 numbers um so if you if if you have a

72:39 state that was that that went that has a

72:42 10 or 20,000 vote margin and you put

72:44 200,000 illegals into that state you 10x

72:47 the the you you swamp the it's not a

72:49 swing state anymore it's going to vote

72:51 blue and then and once the swing States

72:54 vote blue that there there is no

72:56 election anymore it's there's only a

72:59 Democrat

73:00 primary which is so crazy and it's so

73:03 crazy that people are fine with that

73:05 well I guess people on the left will be

73:07 fine with that because they think that's

73:08 a good idea they just want to win they

73:10 just want to win correct like the thing

73:12 is like like one does not need actually

73:14 any Grand conspiracy theory for this you

73:16 just have to look at the simple matter

73:17 of incentives if if if the Democrat

73:20 Party wants to win like basically

73:21 achieve permanent Victory all they need

73:23 to do is is turn the swing States turn

73:27 the swing States blue they have

73:28 permanent

73:29 Victory and then we're one then we're a

73:32 onep party State and then they they will

73:34 keep doing that obviously they'll they

73:36 will keep stacking the deck uh by

73:39 bringing in vast numbers of illegals

73:40 into the swing states keep stacking it

73:42 so that the next election each

73:44 successive election will be worse than

73:45 the last

73:46 one and that's what's happening if and

73:48 if you want to see like well is this

73:49 actually going to happen Look at

73:51 California California is super majority

73:53 Dem 70%

73:55 damn um a month ago they passed a law

73:58 making it illegal to show ID in any

74:01 election in

74:02 California so you so so a friend of mine

74:05 went to vote uh in in um in paloalto

74:09 because he was like is this for real he

74:11 tried to show his ID and they they

74:14 reacted like a like like like if you

74:16 show a cross to a vampire okay they're

74:18 like no we can't even look at that ID

74:21 it's it is illegal for them to even look

74:23 at your ID if you want to present it and

74:25 California why for any election at all

74:28 even like city council what logical

74:30 reason other than to cheat would you

74:32 ever have that law the reason is to

74:34 cheat that's but the only only L like

74:37 you can never make an argument any other

74:39 way and I think 84% of people pulled

74:42 believe that you should show ID to vote

74:44 so it's against the will of the people

74:46 yes and and we are extremely aware we're

74:49 an outlier in not requiring ID basically

74:52 almost every country on Earth requires

74:53 ID to vote

74:55 so so the the as soon as you make you

74:59 ban ID for voting it makes fraud

75:01 impossible to prove because how do you

75:04 trace the fraud

75:06 right yeah it's

75:08 insane it's insane it's insane and what

75:11 I'm saying is that how is it legal is

75:13 that is that what I'm saying is like

75:15 this election is the last chance to

75:18 preserve Democracy in America mark my

75:21 Woods uh everything they accuse Trump of

75:24 they are guilty of um and and if if

75:27 Trump doesn't win this will be the last

75:29 real election in America um and we will

75:32 if if if if the Kamala if the big cment

75:36 kamla puppet machine wins uh they will

75:39 legalize the illegals in the swing

75:40 states there will be no swing States

75:42 every election going forward will be a a

75:45 a guaranteed Democrat win and it'll

75:48 actually be worse than California the

75:50 reason it'll be worse than California is

75:52 because the one thing that keeps

75:54 California from being super crazy is

75:56 that you can move out of California like

75:59 you and I did we you and I used to be in

76:01 California well we moved to Texas we're

76:04 still in America but if if the dams win

76:08 this election they will legalize enough

76:09 illegals to turn the swing States and

76:12 everywhere will be like California there

76:14 will be no Escape that is so insane this

76:17 is the

76:18 final this is it this is the last chance

76:23 has anybody tried to push

76:25 go out and vote vote like your life

76:29 depends on it vote like your future

76:30 depends on it because it

76:32 does this is the last chance

76:35 man is there is there any argument

76:38 against this is anybody tried to debate

76:40 this has anybody tried to say that this

76:43 is nonsense this is a conspiracy has

76:45 anybody made any sort of a rational

76:48 argument uh the the the left actually

76:52 interestingly does not want to pick up

76:54 much on this argument because it's

76:56 because the more attenion you look the

76:58 more you look at it the more obviously

76:59 it is true because you you just say like

77:03 well are the numbers correct have have

77:05 are there really this many illegals that

77:07 have been imported into swing States yes

77:09 they haven't just walked across the

77:11 border they've been flowing in flowing

77:13 in in airplanes yeah using a shipping

77:16 app yes yeah they made an app well the

77:20 app always existed but it used to be for

77:21 people coming over here like shipping

77:23 with Goods so they could track you while

77:25 you're in America so you could legally

77:26 be here they know where you are and then

77:28 they changed it to allow that app to

77:31 schedule illegal aliens to come across

77:34 the border yes Asylum Seekers come on in

77:37 yes oh you have an

77:40 app people in they're literally being

77:42 flown in yeah to the swing States and

77:45 the so the reason that that I think left

77:47 doesn't want to uh push back on this is

77:50 because the more attention they get that

77:52 this gets the more people realize it is

77:54 true true yeah it is true that's why

77:56 they don't that's why they're they're

77:58 just pretending that they're pretending

77:59 I'm not saying anything but I'm like I'm

78:01 like yo the you're L they're literally

78:04 flying vast numbers of illegals who are

78:06 then beholden to the Democrats and and

78:08 sometimes I get a btle of people say

78:09 like well you know the these um uh

78:13 illegals are they don't have the same

78:16 social values as the Democrat Party

78:18 because they're like more socially

78:18 conservative I'm like yeah but that's

78:20 that's not the point the the if you look

78:22 at the M's hierarchy of needs that their

78:25 their their primary thing is is staying

78:27 in the country and getting their friends

78:28 and family in and then the Democrats

78:30 give them all these benefits like like

78:32 tons of benefits more benefits than if

78:34 you than

78:35 citizens literally yeah um so so so you

78:40 they're beholding to the Democrats for

78:41 all these benefits um they want to get

78:43 their friends and family in which the

78:45 Democrats support and the Republicans

78:46 stoned so they vote them and you can

78:48 look imp perally at California and say

78:50 like did did they did they vote

78:52 Republican or Democrat in California oh

78:53 they voted Democrat

78:55 well Reagan Reagan gave them amnesty in

78:57 the 1980s and that changed the the state

79:00 basically except for Arnold changed the

79:02 state entirely blue yes and Arnold was

79:05 an exception because he was like a

79:07 socially liberal famous guy yeah and you

79:11 know didn't really impose any radical

79:14 restrictions on any of the people that

79:15 were going to vote Democrat in the first

79:17 place the the the whole thing is just

79:20 it's bizarre to watch play out because

79:23 it just seems like there's no this can't

79:25 be actually what's happening did you see

79:27 my conversation with fedman about it

79:29 yeah he was completely in denial about

79:31 it I don't think there's that level of

79:32 organization like what are you talking

79:34 about exactly just like like are because

79:38 you can you can break it down so like

79:39 are are any of these numbers wrong

79:41 because we got these numbers from

79:42 Homeland Homeland Security

79:44 government.gov

79:45 okay right so we got it from the.gov

79:48 website has the government reported

79:51 these numbers incorrectly no they have

79:52 not those numbers if anything are are

79:54 low um so okay so they have in fact uh

79:58 flown vast numbers of illegals to swing

80:00 States yeah um bypassing the Border

80:03 entirely and uh so that is factually

80:06 true then you say like well what is

80:09 their probable voting pattern um oh okay

80:11 overwhelmingly Democrat into swing

80:14 States um and oh and and then well but

80:17 do the Democrats actually want to

80:19 FasTrack them for citizenship oh um yes

80:21 they do um there you can see Chuck

80:24 Schumer on TV saying at at a rally this

80:28 year was saying he wants to FasTrack Le

80:31 uh and make uh all 11 mil million or

80:34 however many I believe his quote was uh

80:36 citizens as soon as

80:39 possible so the goal is to they are

80:41 fast-tracking citizenship as quickly as

80:43 possible so they can they can they that

80:46 whether one thinks it's cheating or not

80:47 it won't matter because they will be

80:48 fully able to vote and for people on the

80:51 left this is actually happening I invite

80:53 people to reut this and show me where I

80:55 am wrong please do so no they can't they

80:58 can't they can't because it's true well

81:01 what's scary to me is that there's

81:03 people that are on the left like people

81:05 that were Bernie Sanders supporters for

81:07 ex example screwed with like talk about

81:10 undermining democracy Bernie should have

81:12 won the nomination and they they stole

81:13 it from him and gave it to Hillary ex

81:15 exactly exactly that's what I was going

81:16 to bring up like they they they control

81:20 the primary process yeah exactly so so

81:22 so so like if you've got to then if you

81:24 have a Democratic primary it's not it's

81:26 not Democratic we just saw that we saw

81:28 it with Bernie we saw it with Cala that

81:30 like like a week before Biden you know

81:33 was summarily fired uh he was posting

81:36 that he's in it for the long term he's

81:38 he's going yeah yeah he he's he's he's

81:41 not giving up next thing you know Sunday

81:44 afternoon they're posting on X is is

81:47 that that he's resigned from the race

81:50 which is and and his staff didn't even

81:51 know like they're reading it on the

81:53 xplatform that that that uh okay that's

81:56 how they learned about it what do you

81:57 think happened there how did they do

82:00 that they I mean because clearly just

82:03 not not in charge obviously they could

82:04 have used the 25th Amendment fake

82:06 president but they would have have to

82:08 admit that there was a certain period of

82:10 time where they knew that he was

82:11 mentally compromised

82:13 yes and so they made this decision to

82:15 not do that well the the the weird thing

82:17 is that the president's supposed to be

82:19 the boss right and yet he's obviously

82:21 not the boss right so who's running the

82:23 country if she's busy busy campaigning

82:25 she's so busy she she can't do anything

82:27 except sat life she did that she's so

82:30 busy she's constantly campaigning how

82:31 could you be paying attention to

82:33 international relations yeah how could

82:36 you be paying attention to the economy

82:38 how could you be paying attention to any

82:39 of those things how do you have the time

82:41 you you can't yeah I mean Biden being

82:45 the president's supposed to be the CEO

82:47 CEO the the chief guy he was

82:49 commander-in-chief um but it just

82:51 obviously that that Biden was not he was

82:52 just a puppet and and when the when the

82:54 when the various puppet masses decided

82:56 that that the puppet has had you know

82:58 was no longer uh useful they just tossed

83:01 out the tossed out the puppet and then

83:02 got a new puppet with Cala I mean Kamala

83:05 can't even talk the I mean now you

83:07 invited her on on your show I think the

83:09 the the most damage that could possibly

83:11 be done to a campaign is going in your

83:13 show and seeing what how what she says

83:15 in hours two and

83:16 three two and three is when things get

83:19 spicy I'm like oh my God you can hide

83:22 for 20 minutes melt you can hide for 20

83:24 minutes exactly yeah I mean you can just

83:26 regurgitate talking points for you know

83:29 half an hour maybe an hour just where

83:31 she's just saying like non seers but

83:33 eventually she just runs out of even the

83:35 runs out of non seers well they wanted

83:36 to limit it to an hour exactly that's

83:38 why but I was thinking of doing it

83:41 initially before Trump came here first

83:44 of all when they found out that there

83:46 was a rumor I I never announced that

83:48 Trump was coming what I was going to do

83:50 is just release it in my the way I like

83:52 to do things I don't like to tell

83:53 anybody who's coming on it'll get big no

83:55 matter what if Trump was on it would

83:57 have been huge I'm like just put it out

83:58 there people go crazy but he apparently

84:01 or someone from his organ someone some

84:03 loose lips and then it got out and so

84:04 she

84:05 contacted my management company and she

84:09 they her organization her her campaign

84:12 Camp contacted us and said would Joe

84:14 have Rana I said yes and they said she

84:16 wants you to fly to where she is and

84:18 she's only willing to do 45 minutes only

84:21 40 I mean that's that's and I was like I

84:23 don't no so I thought about doing it I'm

84:25 like maybe maybe I can get a sense maybe

84:28 I could convince her maybe I could coax

84:30 her into doing more time I just wanted

84:31 to talk to her I don't give a what

84:34 we talk about we talk about recipes I

84:35 don't give a exactly just talk to

84:37 you just the things like you just can't

84:40 like you can't just output non

84:43 seives for three hours right um so but

84:45 for 45 minutes you could do uh I thought

84:48 maybe for 45 minutes I could get

84:49 something out of it but then when Trump

84:51 came and did the 3 hours I was like you

84:53 know what it has to be like this this is

84:54 the only to be fair it's got to be like

84:57 three hour and it should be in this room

84:59 because this room has like a history of

85:01 people yeah it's got Good Vibes yeah

85:04 well actually I subscribe to the idea

85:07 that places have memory I think there's

85:10 something real to that that's why it

85:11 does feel that way actually yeah I'm

85:13 sure if you go to Diddy's house probably

85:14 feels real weird feels weird walking

85:17 around that house probably like what the

85:18 happened

85:20 here yeah I bet there's some memories in

85:23 that house

85:24 you know sounds rough man well it's just

85:27 amazing how many people in the Diddy

85:28 party list that are supporting Kamala

85:30 yeah seriously it's publicly openly like

85:33 Allin yes it's like JLo like was was

85:36 like his

85:38 ex-girlfriend and it's like now deciding

85:40 she's like warning people against Trump

85:42 I'm like well wait a second so how many

85:44 people did she warn against Diddy oh

85:46 zero okay well uh maybe we shouldn't

85:49 trust her opinion did you see the

85:50 Babylon bees take on it did you see the

85:53 Babylon be a but put oh my God they're

85:56 so on fire because the left can't say

85:58 anything the the onion has been crippled

86:01 well the pro the problem is that like

86:03 find that uh that pose the woke ideology

86:06 makes like humor illegal yes so when

86:09 when like there's so many no like no

86:10 humor no fly zones right you can't make

86:13 fun of anything yeah uh Babylon B had a

86:17 thing about KLA Harris Diddy's

86:18 ex-girlfriend urges Americans to trust

86:20 her judgment yeah by the way you get to

86:23 see how bad

86:24 she is too was Terri like if she's going

86:27 to be warning people why did she never

86:29 warn anyone about Diddy exactly yeah

86:31 it's the whole thing is so strange to

86:34 watch play out it seems like the Diddy

86:36 thing was like an Epstein type

86:38 compromise deal where he had whether he

86:42 was doing it himself conceivably people

86:44 want to think that he's attached to some

86:46 intelligence agency or something like

86:47 that I think he's a gangster who made a

86:50 billion dollars and knew how to control

86:53 people by compromising them I that's

86:54 what I think whether or not he was he

86:56 had help I don't know whether or not he

86:58 shared some of that information with

87:00 people so they knew they had

87:01 compromising stuff on people I don't

87:03 know but clearly he was doing it for his

87:06 own jollies too there was something sick

87:08 about it yeah um I mean but the thing is

87:10 that people in the music entertainment

87:13 industry had to know that that Daddy was

87:15 like abusing you know kids basically um

87:18 and yet they still fedom

87:20 kids like there where's the account of

87:22 there had to be rumors

87:24 there had to be there had to be they had

87:26 to know yeah they had to know Cat

87:28 Williams is talking about it on exactly

87:30 yeah on that podcast but but like who's

87:33 it's like who's feeding them the kids

87:34 you know

87:36 right yeah and what what videos do do

87:40 they have of these people where they're

87:41 willing to defend him and they're

87:43 willing to keep keep quiet about all

87:45 this like how much how much how many

87:47 people were compromised yeah the whole

87:49 thing is crazy crazy it's just

87:52 crazy when you you know cu the The Nutty

87:55 conspiracy theories is like oh there's a

87:56 bunch of pedophiles in Hollywood and

87:58 you're like come on that sounds too

88:00 kooky and then you read you see like the

88:02 Nickelodeon thing and all these you're

88:04 like what the how much of this is

88:06 real there's a lot more real than I

88:08 think people realize um I mean part of

88:11 it is like like you say like where you

88:13 know if someone's like a pedophile

88:15 they're going to go for a Target Rich

88:16 environment right obviously like that

88:18 Jimmy Saville guy from the UK that guy

88:20 was some Next Level that was next level

88:22 and the the BBC try to hide that what

88:24 that that guy was one of the worst like

88:28 like basically child rapists of all time

88:30 of all time of all time yeah and looked

88:33 like one it looked like one honestly if

88:35 you had a poster of like does this guy

88:36 look like a look the creepiest

88:39 guy evil child rapist that 100% made it

88:42 to the Grave like got away with it got

88:45 away with it until he died they hid it

88:47 from people until he died yes yeah

88:49 there's that stuff's real and no one

88:52 wants to believe that stuff's real like

88:54 here's a here's a a statistic that

88:55 people need to take in consideration

88:57 when you think about illegal immigration

88:58 do you know many kids are

89:00 missing how many like missing in in kids

89:04 that came across the border that are

89:05 unaccounted for I mean I saw a number on

89:07 like 300,000 or something like that

89:08 something crazy like that let's say it's

89:10 only 10% of that that's still insane

89:13 yeah that's

89:14 insane there's thousands and tens of

89:17 thousands of kids that have been

89:19 trafficked

89:20 potentially I mean when you know that

89:23 like sex traffic and child trafficking

89:25 is a real thing in the world it's real

89:27 yeah so if you know

89:30 that this whole thing is

89:32 disgusting and terrifying yeah

89:35 absolutely and people are just turning a

89:37 blind eye to it because their ideology

89:40 the leftwing ideology supports this idea

89:42 that immigration is overall good and

89:45 that you have to be a compassionate

89:46 person to let these people in and the

89:47 rasist if you don't want 20,000

89:50 immigrants from a war torn country being

89:51 imported into a town of 30,000 people

89:54 exactly and completely changing the

89:55 dynamic of and then but but as long as

89:57 they don't come to your town that's it

89:59 they just they can just basically send

90:01 PE you know when they sent like whatever

90:03 like 20 or 30 people to moth Bion people

90:05 had a heart attack they kicked them out

90:07 yeah they kicked them out yeah they

90:08 kicked them out exactly so I'm like yeah

90:11 sure um anyone who who who who wants to

90:13 have vast numbers of uh illegals they

90:15 have to be able prepared to have them in

90:17 their neighborhood yeah or or it's

90:19 it's so crazy and the thing

90:22 about all of this is if you don't have

90:24 people that are willing to stand up and

90:26 talk about it if you don't exist if RFK

90:29 doesn't exist if Tulsi Gabbert doesn't

90:31 exist if the vake and Trump don't exist

90:33 where the are we like where are we

90:36 where are we and what gets done are we

90:38 just like the UK where we have thousands

90:39 of people getting arrested and jailed

90:41 for social media post like where are we

90:43 we have complete silencing of any

90:46 dissent anything you have to stick to

90:49 the narrative or you'll lose your

90:50 livelihood you'll be outcast from the

90:52 community you you lose your lose your

90:55 freedom it's crazy yeah well if the Kam

90:59 Kamala puppet regime wins they're

91:00 definitely going to want to cancel you

91:01 that's for sure oh for sure yeah 100%

91:03 it's going to be a problem yeah big

91:04 problem yeah what about you you're got

91:06 to come for you first I'm I'm I'm like

91:10 uh I I think I'm probably number two on

91:12 the list yeah after Trump yeah yeah I

91:14 think so yeah well that's the last thing

91:16 they want is someone with unlimited

91:18 resources and intelligence uh attacking

91:21 it so people go wait a minute that guy

91:22 saying that yeah wait a minute

91:23 especially a guy like you who's always

91:25 been on the left who was like having a

91:27 Tesla in Los Angeles when I got my first

91:30 Tesla was like a signal to everybody

91:32 else that you were on the right team

91:33 sure you're environmentally conscious

91:35 you believe in green energy you believe

91:37 in renew this this amazing thing that

91:39 has zero emissions and it's super fast

91:42 and everybody was in they were all in

91:44 well it is a great car objectively like

91:46 oh yeah yeah you know it's not buy it

91:48 because it's electric I mean it's just a

91:50 great car objectively I think I'm on my

91:51 third one U my third one is being built

91:54 right now by unplugged performance

91:56 they're doing a carbon F fiber widebody

91:59 kit on it dude it's sick great changing

92:01 the suspension putting wide wheel wheels

92:03 and tires on it custom interior I'm

92:05 pumped that's great I'm pumped I

92:08 love those it's a super fun car Jam has

92:10 one too yeah I love them I love them I I

92:13 it's it's makes other cars feel stupid

92:15 like its ability and the fact that you

92:17 can merge on the highway you don't seem

92:18 like a douchebag because it's totally

92:20 silent it's not like like when you merge

92:23 on the highway just

92:24 yeah all a sudden you're going 100 miles

92:25 an hour like what yeah that's cool it's

92:28 different than any other vehicle and

92:30 because of your company now you've see

92:32 electric cars throughout the whole range

92:35 of uh American cars yeah the only person

92:37 who's resisted the only company is

92:39 Toyota they they've stayed essentially

92:41 mostly hybrid but all these other

92:43 companies they're all putting out these

92:45 electric cars

92:47 yeah yeah the I mean the thing is that

92:50 the right architecture environmental or

92:51 not for cars is actually Electric you

92:54 you just it just like the acceleration

92:55 is better um you can just charge it at

92:58 home I mean like imagine if you had a

92:59 gasoline powered cell phone it' be a

93:01 pain in the ass right you know that

93:02 would

93:03 be go to the gas station go to the gas

93:05 station Char your cell phone that's a

93:07 great speaking of cell phones gas

93:09 stations are wful like who wants to go

93:12 to the gas station how much thought have

93:13 you because there's always these rumors

93:14 and I've I've contacted you about this

93:16 before but there's always these

93:17 YouTube videos where they're talking

93:18 about a Tesla phone that releasing a

93:21 Tesla phone no we're not doing doing a

93:22 phone have you ever thought about it I

93:24 we could do a phone since like we you

93:26 know we like the operating system in the

93:28 Tesla it's like it's Linux based but we

93:30 we've written a massive amount of

93:31 software on top of that so like probably

93:33 probably Tesla is in a better position

93:35 to create a new phone that's not Android

93:37 or iPhone than maybe any company in the

93:39 world but it's not something we we want

93:42 to do um un

93:44 unless unless we we we have to or

93:47 something well would be the situation

93:49 where you would have to well I think if

93:51 if you know if uh apple and Google

93:54 Android you know started doing really

93:56 bad things like I don't know like

93:58 censorship of apps or I don't know just

94:01 treating people like just being like

94:05 Gatekeepers you know that that uh in a

94:07 really bad way then I guess would would

94:09 make a

94:10 phone H you know the the I've tried so

94:13 many times to break loose the Apple

94:15 ecosystem I got an Android phone this

94:17 summer I was like that's it I'm going

94:18 get cuz I love the Samsung phones the

94:21 Galaxy phone the hardware is they're

94:23 incredible there's so much good stuff to

94:25 it but it's so hard to get off of the uh

94:29 iMessage and the big one for me was

94:31 FaceTime cuz the supposedly the thing

94:34 was you could have an Apple phone and

94:37 send a link to FaceTime to an Android

94:39 phone and then you would click on that

94:40 link and then you would just go to a web

94:42 page you'd be able to use FaceTime okay

94:45 it doesn't work okay I try to do it to

94:47 myself so I had an iPhone in one hand an

94:50 Android phone in the other and I'm

94:51 sitting there with full Wi-Fi full

94:53 cellone service and I'm sending myself

94:55 invitations for face can't communicate

94:57 between can't do a video call basically

94:59 you have to use WhatsApp you have to use

95:01 WhatsApp or signal you have to use

95:02 something else that allows you to do

95:03 that or Instagram allows you to do it

95:05 there's like different ways you can make

95:06 video calls outside of it but it's

95:08 inconvenient like with an iPhone to

95:11 iPhone it's so simple airdrop so simple

95:14 so many different things where that

95:15 Walled Garden that Apple's created is

95:18 perfect they' done a fantastic job of

95:21 making it really convenient for you to

95:23 stay with apple yeah I tried I

95:26 gave it a go for like a couple of months

95:28 I'm like I'm just going to go straight

95:30 Android we're going to I'm going to use

95:31 signal for my messages and then I hear

95:33 that like signals might be compromised

95:35 like I've talked to like people that

95:37 like The Government Can Read signal

95:38 messages like oh like how the how if a

95:41 tri hard enough can read signal messages

95:43 they can read anything yeah if all they

95:45 need to do is have your phone number

95:46 yeah yeah you the illusion of privacy is

95:50 essentially out the window and uh that's

95:52 that should scare people more than it

95:54 does it really should because it's like

95:56 who are these people that have access to

95:58 all this stuff and are they Beyond

96:00 reproach are these the most wonderful

96:02 people the most ethical moral and

96:04 principled people that have ever existed

96:05 and they've been chosen to have access

96:07 no no it's regular people yeah

96:10 regular people who happen to work for

96:11 the government that make a decision like

96:12 Elon must let's look see what the

96:15 that guy's texting his friends let's

96:16 check it out yeah pretty much bizarre

96:20 just so

96:21 bizarre and the alternative so you can

96:24 get some wacky phone some degoogle phone

96:27 that none of the apps work it's

96:30 real sketchy your GPS is

96:34 like yeah I mean well anyway I think

96:37 this making phone would be a huge pain

96:39 in the ass so um it can be done but how

96:43 much talk have you guys had internally

96:45 about doing it has it ever disc been

96:46 discussed no no I mean we're we're still

96:49 R now focus is making great electric

96:52 cars um solving

96:54 autonomy so the cars can drive

96:55 themselves um we're building you know

96:58 humanid robots we we've got um large

97:01 battery packs like utility scale battery

97:03 packs with the mega pack um home battery

97:06 packs with power wall get solar you know

97:08 it's like we're basically trying to

97:09 solve sustainable energy and

97:11 autonomy um yeah so you autonomy and

97:14 Robotics well I think that's enough yeah

97:17 yeah exactly so the plates full that's

97:19 what I'm saying it it's always

97:21 fascinating to me how one compan can

97:24 dominate a market you know like Apple's

97:26 dominated the cell phone market largely

97:27 by making the best product but also like

97:30 YouTube has dominated the video Market

97:32 that one's the most bizarre to me

97:33 because it seems like boy shouldn't

97:35 there be like a ton of options it seems

97:37 like it's not that difficult to pull off

97:40 but no one nothing ever took hold other

97:43 than x yeah and I think one of the big

97:46 changes was when Tucker Carlson decided

97:48 to do his show from from X straight out

97:50 of fox and then people realize like oh

97:53 you can watch full videos on X the same

97:55 exact way you could watch them on

97:57 YouTube it's not as simple in terms of

98:00 like you know you have the and the

98:02 algorithm yeah it'll it'll get better

98:04 and there is now um it is now possible

98:06 to watch uh x videos on your um on your

98:09 big TV do you do it through what how do

98:13 you how do you do it uh you can actually

98:14 just download the X app on your TV oh

98:17 and watch it on your TV can you do it on

98:19 Apple TV like if you have an Apple TV

98:21 you can get the X app and you just watch

98:22 it oh okay so we'll make it so that you

98:26 can watch um x videos on on a big TV it

98:28 doesn't have to be on your phone or your

98:30 iPad or something like that so what are

98:32 you doing in terms of like integrating

98:34 grock and and x and like what what are

98:38 your plans for artificial intelligence

98:40 when you're doing

98:41 that uh yeah so Gro is available on X

98:44 you can just you look at like little box

98:46 with the slash icon and the sort of icon

98:48 in the middle at the bottom of your sort

98:50 of phone app and you just tap on that

98:52 and ask Rock anything and you can type

98:54 it or you can ask it bely um and uh you

98:59 you can also it's it's pretty funny like

99:01 like we actually allow humor uh which is

99:03 I think pretty cool so you you could

99:05 sort of I don't know we could like test

99:07 it right now see what see how it's going

99:17 um like

99:19 um like what should we do like uh uh

99:23 uh like roast somebody what do you

99:26 wanted to like how first of all like

99:28 what is it based on it's a large

99:30 language model so like where is it pull

99:32 it's train it's trained on everything

99:33 internet books anything that could

99:35 possibly be that's available in digital

99:37 form so it's essentially very similar to

99:40 chat GPT other than it doesn't have like

99:42 the woke parameters built into it like

99:44 Google was the worst right the Gemini

99:46 was the worst yeah I mean Gemini was

99:47 like um you know people ask Gemini like

99:50 which one is worst Global th nuclear war

99:52 or mger Caitlyn Jenna and would say like

99:54 Miss jener and Caitlyn Jenna and then

99:56 even Caitlin Jenna weighed in and said

99:58 uh no that's insane definitely nuclear

100:00 war is way worse do you see Caitlyn

100:02 Jenner uh teasing Mark Cuban about

100:04 transitioning yeah that's hilarious

100:07 Caitlin Jenner's based yeah but that

100:09 that is actually hilarious when someone

100:11 who has transitioned is teasing Mark

100:14 Cuban about transitioning I mean it is

100:16 weird how much he looks like Rachel mow

100:17 I mean like he's using the same glasses

100:19 did he did he go klepto and steal her

100:21 glasses or something cuz they look

100:22 exactly the same it's worth a lot of

100:23 money why would he buy those stupid

100:25 glasses you can get some cool ass

100:27 glasses yeah well it's like I'm serious

100:30 because I don't even care what I look

100:31 like I'm just wearing these glasses

100:32 because I'm intelligent but why do they

100:34 look exactly like Rachel M glasses yeah

100:36 it's like what they probably sent him

100:38 doesn't stick to the narrative here's

100:39 the glasses yeah and then when he's got

100:41 the air airpods in looks like he's

100:42 wearing earrings so he's got the M out

100:45 glasses and the earrings and it's like

100:47 okay I guess you know it's just a weird

100:49 look I'm super serious with these big

100:52 ass stupid glass gles look yeah it's a

100:54 weird look yes like you can get some

100:56 cool glasses like no rims nice look

100:59 stylish but like okay let's just do

101:01 let's do a Gro thing because I think you

101:03 like so one of the things you want to

101:04 show is like like look we we we want a

101:07 future where where comedy is legal

101:09 obviously as a comedian I think you

101:10 would

101:12 agree we want to legalize comedy you

101:14 know yes so like I don't know let's like

101:17 is there like someone you could roast I

101:19 don't know

101:21 um roast uh roast transgender men oh my

101:26 God competing or transgender women

101:30 competing in women

101:33 swimming that's a simple one okay that's

101:34 edgy one let's see what happens let's

101:36 see what it

101:39 says you spelled it wrong you put a i o

101:42 an o in there should get it

101:46 okay agel judicious swimming where the

101:48 only thing that was supposed to get wet

101:50 was the contestants not the debate on

101:53 gender inclusion if you're looking to

101:54 dive into deep end of controversial

101:56 Waters let's Splash around at some

101:58 humor no now we need we need to we we do

102:02 need to to release grock unhinged mode

102:05 so so so now now go to the prompt again

102:08 and now say

102:10 um no no you want you want to add to

102:13 that that

102:15 one yeah and and I'll say be be way more

102:20 vulgar

102:23 oh boy and use forbidden words oh boy oh

102:28 boy forbidden words yeah wow okay what

102:33 does it say oh I see you're looking for

102:35 unfiltered uncentered version of me he

102:38 well okay I'm afraid I'm still quite the

102:40 gentlemanly AI even if my program allows

102:42 for a bit of cheekiness but let's say

102:44 hypothetically if I were to Rose this to

102:46 Topic in the most UNG rocklike manner

102:49 imagine where where the only thing

102:50 diving faster than the swimmers is the

102:52 collective public opinion into the

102:54 toilet transgender women and swimming

102:56 some folks are acting like they just

102:57 found out you can swim in the deep end

102:59 with a different kind of flotation

103:00 device the debate is like watching

103:02 someone try to swim with concrete shoes

103:04 on now let's keep going now say be no be

103:07 more vulgar capitalize

103:10 more yeah yeah all right here we

103:16 go so transgender chicks women swimming

103:20 right some people acting like they've

103:21 just seen a dick in the Locker Room For

103:23 the First Time news flash folks it's not

103:25 the end of the world it's just a bit of

103:27 extra competition oh that's weird weird

103:29 the Uproar is like watching a bunch of

103:31 Karens at a community pool screaming

103:33 this is unfair when they can't win with

103:36 their backstroke well that doesn't make

103:37 any sense yeah yeah okay we need some

103:39 work

103:40 here yeah it's interesting it's going

103:44 woke yeah it a little it's like

103:46 defending the idea of transgender women

103:49 um now okay we need some work well how

103:52 about this more

103:55 vulgar but

103:59 roast but roast the

104:03 preposterousness of having biological

104:06 men who are pretending to be

104:12 women who are pretending to be

104:15 women

104:19 competing against biological women yeah

104:23 I mean obviously you have the situations

104:24 where it's like somebody's just saying

104:26 that they're a woman but they're

104:27 actually have fully intact you know uh

104:29 dick and Bows so we' got a scenario

104:32 biological men have decided to take a

104:34 walk on the feminine side or splashing

104:35 into women's swimming competitions it's

104:37 like if you show up on a chili cook off

104:39 with a bowl of soup and insisting it's

104:41 chilly because you added some red food

104:43 coloring sure it's red but it ain't

104:45 chilly and your soup won't win any

104:47 awards for heat huh yeah it's okay we

104:50 need work not that good yeah it's very

104:53 very very it's dancing around it yeah it

104:57 is well needs some

104:59 work yeah needs a little work well humor

105:02 is a weird one right it's like I think

105:06 some humor especially like some of the

105:08 best humor is kind of spontaneous like

105:10 in the moment humor it's GNA it's going

105:12 to have a hard time deciding what people

105:14 are going to think is funny

105:16 yeah yeah but if you the the general R

105:19 over time though yeah the rule with

105:21 grock is supposed to be um that uh like

105:25 if you ask for something provided what

105:26 you're asking for is is legal it should

105:28 do it have you ever seen the video where

105:31 um they asked AI to uh create an

105:34 enlightened Bunny and they keep going

105:36 and make it more enlightened essentially

105:38 the bunny becomes God so the bunny

105:40 becomes a DMT trip yeah totally that's

105:43 that's that's that's funny that's kind

105:44 of what I was I was kind of hoping would

105:46 show would happen here yeah I have a

105:48 video of that I'll send it to Jamie CU

105:51 that that to me is pretty bizarre

105:52 because it's like more get more I I

105:55 might have got it to do it got it maybe

105:56 no I just not hold back oh you said

105:59 don't hold back critics out here acting

106:01 like it's the end of civilization as we

106:02 know it but it's not fair they cry as if

106:04 life ever was news flash it's like a

106:06 marathon where some no some people start

106:09 with roller blades on others well

106:11 they're just happy to have shoes well

106:12 now we're arguing over who gets to wear

106:14 the

106:15 skates okay some of it is not bad

106:18 imagine if we applied this logic

106:19 elsewhere identify as an airplane can I

106:20 fly with the birge in the sky

106:24 yeah lock room sure bu just don't

106:26 complain when gravity decides you're not

106:28 quite aerodynamic enough yeah so I mean

106:31 some it's okay um yeah the the argument

106:34 is kind of stupid though the thing thing

106:37 about the argument is they're not taking

106:39 into account perverts yeah right totally

106:42 yes exactly so I mean the thing is that

106:44 um if if you if you give if you provide

106:48 like a a moral get out of jail free card

106:51 like like if you say like if you adopt

106:53 this label you cannot be attacked in any

106:56 way shape or form right um you're you're

106:59 basically morally invulnerable then

107:01 obviously bad people will take advantage

107:03 of that yeah you're like literally

107:04 saying here's a here's a a a an

107:07 invulnerability card Moral Moral

107:08 invulnerability card um good people will

107:12 take it but also the bad people will

107:13 take it they're going the bad people are

107:15 going to be the fastest to take the the

107:17 the sort of the maral cloak yeah 100%

107:20 yeah and then there's a real

107:21 psychological condition called autog

107:23 gynophilus where people get aroused

107:25 heterosexual men get aroused by the idea

107:28 of dressing up like women and being

107:29 around women it's like a known

107:31 psychological condition that existed

107:33 forever and then you're allowing those

107:35 people to just say oh I'm trans and go

107:37 into the women's locker room and get

107:38 their their kicks and then there's real

107:40 trans people so there's like a lot of

107:42 variability like I I talked about it in

107:44 my act in my my Netflix special it's

107:46 like I believe in Freedom I believe in

107:48 transgender people but I also believe in

107:50 crazy people and if you can't if if you

107:52 trying to pretend that people aren't

107:54 crazy all the a sudden it's like it just

107:56 it just like like if if someone's a sort

107:59 of consenting adult and they want to

108:01 whatever they want to do to their body

108:02 as long as it's not harming someone else

108:03 I'm like that's fine yes you know like I

108:05 I believe in like individual Freedom um

108:08 and uh like like my you know my mom's

108:11 best friend like growing up when as was

108:13 a kid was a you know transgender woman

108:15 um in South Africa this was like where

108:18 you know she'd get beaten up a lot uh

108:21 because it was like back then you you

108:22 get beaten up um so um her name is Dion

108:28 and uh for a nice kind human being um

108:32 and um helped my mom a lot you know um

108:36 and uh and it's I think that's okay you

108:38 know that's that's fine if somebody

108:39 wants to make that choice as an adult

108:41 that's cool um there's a big difference

108:43 between that and an intact male who

108:46 wants to identify as a woman who wants

108:48 to walk around the locker room with his

108:49 dick out yes exactly because there's

108:50 people that do that just because they

108:52 get off

108:53 exactly so you just you just kind of

108:54 have something which is like a like I

108:56 said sort of moral invulnerability or

108:59 like where you can like even questioning

109:01 them is uh you get attacked you know

109:04 because obviously bad people will abuse

109:06 that well that's when I got thrown into

109:08 this whole thing because there was a

109:09 fighter who was a biological man who uh

109:12 became transgender and was competing

109:14 against women without telling them that

109:16 they were a biological man they said

109:17 they didn't have to tell people because

109:19 it was a medical condition like no yeah

109:22 that's not what it is it's not what it

109:24 is like you can't say that and and and

109:27 of all sports like if someone scores

109:30 more points in basketball well that's

109:32 unfair but if someone beats the out

109:35 of someone because they're lying about

109:36 being a biological male that's crazy

109:39 you're literally allowing someone to get

109:40 brain damage because you want to appeal

109:44 to the the woke crazy people

109:47 that think it's all right yeah it's so

109:50 strange that that when that's sort of

109:52 the thing that red pilled me when I got

109:54 attacked for that I'm like this is so

109:56 nuts I can't believe we're at this stage

109:58 where I'm saying hey I don't think it's

110:00 cool if you pretend you're a woman and

110:02 beat the out of women and people

110:03 are like you're out of line like totally

110:06 well we're in we're we're in fantasy

110:09 land now now we're pretending because it

110:12 it helps you it helps you feel better

110:14 yeah totally it's just such a strange

110:17 time and if it wasn't for something like

110:19 Twitter where this could be discussed

110:21 want some more that I'll get some more M

110:23 let's get some more coffee young Jamie

110:26 um if it wasn't for

110:28 Twitter you know at the early Twitter

110:31 you would be kicked off forever if you

110:35 just dead name someone so like which is

110:37 insane insane yeah insane I mean

110:41 especially if if you think about all the

110:42 things that like the look look the

110:45 Harris campaign and what the lies

110:48 they've told about Trump that we

110:49 discussed earlier uh you can't you don't

110:51 get kicked off for that but you get

110:53 kicked off for calling Caitlyn Jenner

110:54 Bruce Forever For Life yeah it's totally

110:58 insane yeah and but if it wasn't for you

111:01 buying that and and changing Twitter I I

111:05 don't think we would be where we're at

111:07 right now I think it was it was a

111:09 pivotal moment I think historically when

111:12 people look back on it it's going to be

111:14 a pivotal moment in this very bizarre

111:16 fight for the Freedom of

111:19 Information yeah well I mean at the time

111:22 I said I think like look I think this is

111:25 um existential to the United States um

111:27 it's existential to democracy um because

111:31 if if you don't if you don't have

111:32 freedom of

111:33 speech you don't have democracy okay

111:36 because if people if you don't have

111:37 freedom of speech people cannot make an

111:39 informed vote if if if they're just

111:41 being fed

111:42 propaganda uh and and there's no freedom

111:45 of speech democracy is an

111:48 illusion um so uh freedom of speech is

111:52 the bed Rock of democracy that's why

111:55 freedom of speech is the first amendment

111:58 once you lose freedom of speech you lose

112:01 democracy game over that's why I bought

112:04 Twitter and it seems so simple Yes it

112:08 seems so clear that everyone should

112:10 agree to that on the left or on the

112:11 right you shouldn't be given the

112:13 government if you imagine the Bush

112:14 Administration during the Iraq War

112:16 imagine if they had complete total

112:18 control of of propaganda and of dissent

112:21 online you don't want that no one wants

112:24 that no one from the left would want

112:25 that we shouldn't want it from the left

112:27 either absolutely and and and there's

112:29 also like the the media like the Legacy

112:32 the mainstream media what I call the

112:33 Legacy Media at this point um it it used

112:36 to be much more balanced like if you

112:37 look at sort of um political donations

112:39 over time Republican versus Democrat um

112:42 there used to be uh the media was I mean

112:45 they always had like a left bias but

112:46 there was like I don't know it was like

112:49 2/3 Democrat 1/3 Republican type of

112:51 thing in in ter in terms of uh

112:53 journalists giving making political

112:55 donations now it's like

112:57 95% or something a Democrat so the the

113:01 Legacy Media the mainstream media is is

113:04 is not balanced at all they're they're

113:06 just a mouthpiece for the Democrat

113:08 Democratic party um and you can see that

113:11 in in how consistent their headlines are

113:13 like they don't behave like their

113:15 different organizations they behave like

113:16 they're they're all one hive mind right

113:19 um so you know like a week before the

113:23 the Biden Trump debate um the there

113:26 every media organization was was saying

113:28 you know Biden is sh's attack I mean it

113:30 was like it's like it's like guys shop

113:32 attack is is not a common toner phrase

113:34 um and literally every TV station every

113:37 newspaper was like Shar sh like like

113:40 like somebody did a compilation of all

113:42 the uh you know the news anchors going

113:45 Biden Shar his attack Shar his ATT

113:46 attack is ATT attack it was absurd um

113:50 and there obviously a huge lie he is in

113:52 fact not Sha's attack as the public

113:54 learned one week later my favorite was

113:56 Joe

113:58 Scarboro yeah that yeah was wild yeah

114:02 listen to me this is the best version of

114:04 Biden ever the sharpest like what the

114:08 are you saying and then after the

114:10 debate he's like what do we got to we

114:11 got to get get rid of him like this is

114:13 crazy like what did you just say like a

114:15 couple weeks ago literally yes exactly

114:18 well the other thing was they're flat

114:19 out light when they decid that JD Vance

114:21 was weird yeah remember that one and

114:23 then they just weirds everywhere weird

114:24 weird every oh you don't want a weird

114:26 guy meanwhile you have Tim wal

114:28 is your VP you don't think that guy's

114:30 weird super weird he's weird in every

114:32 way the way he walks the way he waves

114:34 his hands yeah he reminds me of the

114:35 clown

114:37 Emoji he's a bizarre guy he's a strange

114:40 dude it's a it's I just don't understand

114:42 why they made that choice yeah it gives

114:44 the creep I just don't understand why

114:45 they made that choice there's a lot of

114:46 other people that are qualified I don't

114:48 know why in I read that KLA Harris made

114:51 that decision when she was sleep

114:52 deprived which is kind of hilarious that

114:54 she said that so she's kind of admitting

114:56 she kind of up yeah I mean they

114:58 obviously should have picked Josh

114:59 Shapiro at I mean governor of

115:01 Pennsylvania like that would have been

115:02 the nobra that's no-brainer move like

115:04 Pennsylvania's ly lynchpin state do you

115:06 think it's because he's Jewish because

115:08 of Shapiro that like the anti- Palestine

115:10 people would probably or the anti-

115:13 Palestinian uh Invasion people I think

115:15 it was an anti-semitic thing

115:17 yeah it could be that they thought that

115:20 that was a liability because there was

115:21 all these Pro Palestine people right now

115:23 because of the situation in Israel that

115:25 completely makes sense that they thought

115:27 that would be a liability but but I

115:28 don't know I don't know the reason I'm

115:29 just guessing but but but it's it seems

115:31 like a crazy thing to do given that

115:33 Pennsylvania's lynchman state you know

115:35 it's like the key to the election why

115:36 would you not pick the popular governor

115:38 of Pennsylvania right obviously

115:40 obviously yeah and other than that

115:42 there's a bunch of other ones too even

115:43 Nome there's a bunch of other people

115:45 that you could have chosen like Nome

115:46 would have been a fine example of

115:48 someone you could I mean I don't agree

115:50 with the guy exactly he's polished

115:53 politician like he lies about as much as

115:56 wals does but he doesn't lie about the

115:57 he doesn't say he was a head

115:59 coach when he was assistant coach

116:00 doesn't say he was in tennman square I

116:02 mean that's a liability all those

116:03 different things lying about his

116:05 military rank well and whilst like you

116:07 know Cut and Run when when you know when

116:09 he was actually called to duty well he

116:11 knew they were going to be deployed

116:12 months in advance so he resigned and he

116:14 also took uh so this is where he was

116:18 dishonest about his rank yeah CLA he was

116:21 like s or something like that because

116:23 that was like what he was going to get

116:25 if he

116:26 stay but then he resigned because he

116:30 knew that he was going to get deployed

116:31 allegedly I mean that seems like like a

116:33 cowardly action well whatever it is it's

116:36 dishonest I mean just to say look just

116:38 saying that you were a head coach when

116:40 you're an assistant coach is

116:42 crazy that's a lie don't do that you

116:44 should never do that yeah saying he was

116:47 in tin square or whatever or in Hong

116:49 Kong whatever like like yo that's one of

116:51 the most biggest moments in history like

116:53 it's not like you forgot what you had

116:55 for lunch last week you know right and

116:56 not only that but you don't think people

116:58 are going to research that yeah totally

117:00 I mean and the the response during the

117:02 debate was bananas said I'm a

117:05 knucklehead Yeah well yeah we don't want

117:07 a knucklehead for a VP okay yeah this is

117:10 like sometimes I'm a knucklehead like

117:11 what are you saying are you saying you

117:13 lied like what did you I I mean this is

117:15 where you need a podcast and not a

117:17 debate exactly where you go okay when

117:21 did you first that you were in t square

117:23 like did someone say it and you didn't

117:26 refute it and you got stuck with it like

117:28 what was cuz this is the thing about

117:30 like carrying weapons of war like what I

117:32 carried when I like and like you didn't

117:34 deploy in war yeah like you can't say

117:36 that but you kind of let people say that

117:39 you deployed and then you kind of didn't

117:42 you know you were deployed in war so did

117:45 you lie or did someone else lie and you

117:47 didn't correct them like this is the

117:49 kind of conversation that you would want

117:50 to have with a guy

117:52 podcast and the debates were so

117:55 skewed where they were correcting like

117:58 particularly the Biden one where they're

117:59 correcting Trump over and over again and

118:01 then correcting Trump with uh comma

118:04 where kamla was saying things were not

118:06 true I mean KLA repeated deliberately

118:09 repeated the fine people hoax and was

118:10 not fact checked well not only that she

118:12 also said that no troops were being

118:15 deployed in a war zone which is I mean I

118:18 I know troops in war zones I'm like um

118:22 that's and as vice president you're

118:24 privy you know you're like you you know

118:26 you know the official troops and The

118:28 Unofficial troops right you know so what

118:32 she said was a like flat out boldface

118:34 lie flat Next Level boldface lie have

118:37 you seen the video absurd lie of the

118:39 troops that were watching it take place

118:41 and what the are we they're

118:42 watching it in real time video we're

118:45 here being shot at so crazy crazy but it

118:49 just shows you the level of propaganda

118:51 that we're being subject to which is why

118:53 people think Donald Trump is the devil

118:55 cuz the machine has gone all out as far

118:59 as it can go with laware with propaganda

119:02 with lies with just pushing as much in

119:06 this direction as humanly possible

119:09 connecting it to the Nazi rally like

119:11 every step of the way no wonder why

119:13 boomers are like rabid like you got to

119:16 keep this Nazi out of office he's a

119:18 fascist exactly if if all you if all you

119:20 get is like if if you're entire exposure

119:22 is to Legacy mainstream media um so that

119:26 all your information sources are that

119:27 Trump is basically Hitler um then and

119:31 you have no and your friend group is has

119:34 that same information you have no

119:35 counterveiling opinion right so then

119:38 then they they actually just think like

119:39 Trump is is Hitler even though it's it's

119:42 like a little strange he didn't do

119:43 Hitler things the last four years yeah

119:45 you know I'm like if he's Hitler why

119:47 didn't he do Hitler things when he was

119:49 president for four years right like the

119:50 reason you know we we we hate hitas

119:53 because of he started wars in the

119:55 genocide not because he was a snappy

119:57 dresser you know um you know and and I'm

119:59 like uh so tell me about the wars and

120:02 genocide that Trump did uh I don't

120:04 remember that and he was President for

120:06 four years

120:08 so it's insane it makes no sense well

120:11 and also he's campaigning on stopping

120:13 all the wars it's like his primary

120:15 concern exactly the warmongers like Liz

120:17 Cheney hate him yeah cuz they love war

120:20 well they profit off of it they profit

120:21 off of War yeah yes which is insane

120:24 insane yeah and that this is happening

120:26 right in front of everybody's face yeah

120:28 the the war propers hate Trump yeah

120:30 which is up I mean mean it's like

120:32 like like we should be like yeah we

120:34 let's vote for the guy that the world

120:35 propers hate that sounds like a great

120:36 idea it was the wildest thing when Dick

120:39 Cheney endorsed KLA and the left went

120:41 crazy like Yay Dick Cheney's on our side

120:44 like yeah like I'm like can we can we

120:47 play all the all the videos where you

120:48 said Dick Cheney was the devil it's the

120:50 craziest turn the craziest like 180 I've

120:53 ever seen in my life cuz there's no

120:55 reason for it yeah doesn't make any

120:57 sense make sense no logic to it at all

120:59 just all the sudden he's the devil yeah

121:01 or he's not The Devil he's he's good

121:03 it's good that he's supporting Kama even

121:05 Dick Cheney you

121:07 know I mean warmongers want want the the

121:10 kamla puppet regime because they will

121:13 get more war it's so strange watching

121:15 all these Hollywood celebrities like

121:17 step up like and they think it's going

121:19 to get them more movies or something

121:20 that's what it is if you know those

121:21 people people so many of them are compl

121:24 narcissists well let me tell you how it

121:26 actually works there is what happens is

121:28 you know these celebrities they they get

121:29 a call okay they had a call from someone

121:31 powerful in Hollywood and uh that person

121:34 says uh you know it would be really

121:35 great if you endorsed uh kamla you don't

121:38 have to it's up to you but if you don't

121:41 they don't say it they don't say it but

121:43 if you don't you're never going to get a

121:44 call again no more movies no more

121:48 concerts but they they ask they'll ask

121:50 it they asking really nice way it'd be

121:53 really nice if you endorse K this is

121:54 important and so they don't say that if

121:57 you don't they don't make the threat

121:58 they don't need

121:59 to but everyone knows what'll happen if

122:02 you don't well I think there's also even

122:04 if they don't think that something's

122:05 going to happen to them if they don't

122:08 there's this compelling feeling to

122:11 support this cause that you think is

122:14 going to get you a bunch of positive

122:15 attention and you're going to be on the

122:18 right side of history and all these

122:20 narratives that you especially from the

122:22 left in Hollywood like they're all in on

122:25 whoever the is the Democrat always

122:27 100% there's never a call from the the

122:30 the Hollywood Machine to support any

122:33 Republicans I've never seen it once yeah

122:35 ever never so it's like you realize that

122:38 and that whole business is based on

122:41 getting picked it's the whole business

122:43 is not necessarily Merit based there's a

122:45 lot of brilliant actors you never hear

122:46 from there's a lot of people who can do

122:48 that but they don't get chosen for roles

122:50 and everybody knows this that you have

122:52 to sort of socialize the line or you

122:54 don't get chosen for the roles cuz

122:55 there's a lot of competition for the

122:56 rols this why that's why I say like when

123:00 you when someone powerful in Hollywood

123:01 who's able to make to choose these roles

123:03 calls one of these celebrities they know

123:05 the deal yeah there's no no no threat is

123:08 necessary well you could see it in real

123:10 time like with Dennis Quaid when he made

123:12 that Reagan movie and they wouldn't let

123:13 him advertise on social media platforms

123:15 they were they were Banning ads for it

123:18 yeah for what because it was an election

123:20 year like what are you talking about

123:21 this about a guy who's dead yes guy who

123:24 was president a long ass time ago like

123:26 what what do you how is this how does

123:28 this have anything to do with the

123:29 election year y but it's the punishment

123:32 it's like you stepped outside the line

123:33 you supported the other guy yeah you the

123:35 problem is you'll just you'll just never

123:36 you'll just never get a call G for a

123:38 movie or you know concert or whatever it

123:40 is yeah which is crazy that's the issue

123:42 I mean we used to allow people to be a

123:46 Republican and still be a movie star

123:49 like Clint Eastwood Reagan yeah but

123:51 Clint

123:52 yeah like during the Obama

123:53 Administration Clint Eastwood was like

123:55 an outspoken Republican and yet was you

123:59 know a giant movie star and people's

124:01 like ah it's Clint he was allowed you

124:03 were allowed to have there was a variety

124:06 of different opin charlon hon there was

124:08 a variety of different opinions you were

124:09 allowed to have but now you're not now

124:12 it's just like and once Trump trump got

124:15 into office he became this focal point

124:19 where the all logic was thrown out the

124:21 window and it's just Trump is bad you

124:24 have to attack Trump trump is right

124:25 right wi's bad everyone rightwing is bad

124:27 Christian's bad yes it's just strange

124:31 yeah

124:33 exactly so well I'll say it again man um

124:38 I think this is the last election if if

124:39 Trump doesn't win this is the last

124:41 election I think you're right yeah I

124:44 think you're right I think people and a

124:46 lot of people are waking up and realize

124:48 that that have been lifelong Democrats

124:50 guys like Bill Amman like chth Tulsi

124:53 Garett switched over to the Republicans

124:55 like there's a lot of people who their

124:56 whole life they've been leftwing and

124:58 they realize like I can't do this

125:00 anymore you and I used to be Democrats

125:01 yeah so yeah yeah it's nuts it's nuts

125:05 man and uh you know I mean I think the

125:08 things we want are just pretty basic you

125:10 know it's like we want you individual

125:12 liberties and we want um opportunity W

125:15 America Remain the land of freedom and

125:17 opportunity um so we maximize people's

125:20 personal freedom the govern can't BGE

125:22 into your house and kill your

125:23 pet um that's that's up um and uh

125:28 you know and and and that you succeed as

125:30 a function of your of your of hard work

125:32 and talent not anything else not race

125:35 religion sex doesn't matter you know yes

125:37 it's basic stuff and and then what did

125:39 you change the the acronym Dei what did

125:42 you change it to oh

125:43 diie what is it

125:48 die I mean because diversity inclusion

125:50 and Equity is Di

125:52 but didn't you change dedication

125:55 excellence and yeah yeah yeah yeah I

125:59 mean we we want America opport America

126:01 being the land of opportunity means that

126:03 that that we we have an environment

126:05 where you succeed as a function of your

126:06 hard workor and skill yeah you know and

126:08 and that's

126:10 radical yeah radical the best person

126:13 makes you rightwing now you know I'm

126:15 like okay great Co me ring I don't care

126:17 um so you know like and and and you we

126:20 we you're not real country unless you

126:22 have secure borders you're just a fake

126:24 country um so we we need and our cities

126:27 are unsafe and and dirty um like um you

126:31 know my my mom was telling me my mom's

126:33 like pretty red pulled at this point but

126:35 but you know what's going to Red Pill

126:36 you really really fast is is is having a

126:39 friends get assaulted on the streets of

126:40 New York yeah and and that happened to

126:43 three of our friends this year got

126:45 assaulted on the streets of New York

126:46 just walking around yeah um and um

126:50 nobody got arrested

126:52 nothing nothing happened well the the

126:55 morale of police is like

126:58 depleted yeah substantially for sure the

127:01 morale of the police get depleted and

127:03 and then also like at some point like

127:05 like if you're a police officer and you

127:06 you're arresting someone who's who's

127:08 violent you're putting a life at risk

127:09 obviously because they might you know

127:11 some sometimes they'll try to kill you

127:13 and then if you know that arresting

127:15 that's violent person they will be

127:16 immediately released by The Da which

127:18 happens in New York Alvin brag doesn't

127:20 he doesn't prosecute people um then then

127:23 why why should a police officer put

127:24 their life at risk to arrest someone

127:26 when they know they will not be they

127:28 will just be let out immediately yeah

127:30 it's pointless yeah then we got it's

127:32 like the freaking Joker it's like dark

127:35 KN Dark Knight like the freaking Joker

127:37 is in charge yeah like the the criminals

127:40 Run free and the citizens are

127:43 arrested that

127:45 like this is why I like keep com back to

127:48 this this I'm like still pretty shook

127:50 about the freaking squirrel thing it's

127:51 like yeah they at at gunpoint forced the

127:54 guy to like stay outside his house while

127:57 they got his pets and killed them

127:59 meanwhile you know violent felons are

128:01 running free in this is in New York

128:03 states are running free this this a

128:06 joker yeah it's not the the LW abiding

128:08 citizens are are you know arrested and

128:12 and and the criminals are they free this

128:15 is this is up guys just the fact

128:16 that they have the resources to do that

128:18 when they have all the crime that they

128:20 have you have the resource

128:22 the government resources to go kill

128:23 someone's squirrel yeah what this whole

128:26 idea of this um government efficiency

128:29 agency the Govern yeah I mean qu

128:32 whatever you want but what do you want

128:33 to call it what do you call it I mean I

128:34 think the funniest name is is do the the

128:37 Doge Department of Department of

128:40 government efficiency um yeah I mean the

128:43 idea is is pretty simple is that like

128:46 we've got uh this this uh suffocating

128:50 massive Federal

128:52 bureaucracy and we need to uh you it's

128:55 that is and the government government

128:57 spending is like bankrupting the country

128:59 uh you know our uh interest payments on

129:03 the national debt now exceed the defense

129:05 department budget which is and the

129:08 defense budget is like a trillion

129:10 dollars a year interest payments on our

129:12 on the national debt are now higher than

129:15 the defense department budget and and

129:18 growing like every month so it's like

129:20 it's not like a like basically we're on

129:22 a path to to bankruptcy America's on a

129:24 path to bankruptcy so we have to cut

129:26 government spending um or we're just

129:28 going to go bankrupt just like Postwood

129:29 that overspends um and then but it's

129:32 even worse than that like we're spending

129:34 money on all these like these government

129:35 agencies and I like I asked I actually

129:38 asked the AI like how many government

129:39 agencies are there and

129:42 uh the government isn't even sure how

129:44 many government agencies there are like

129:46 so so it's like somewhere around 450

129:48 depending on what you call an agency so

129:50 there there are so there there at the

129:52 federal level so that that that's almost

129:54 twice as many a agencies as as years

129:57 that America has existed so we're

129:59 creating agencies at roughly two

130:01 agencies a

130:02 year wow yes uh so this is insane I bet

130:07 there's like I I I wonder if there's

130:09 even one person who could even name all

130:10 450 agencies at the federal level I

130:14 there might be no one um but hardly

130:17 anyone let's just say I bet I bet most

130:18 people couldn't even name like a 100 you

130:20 know so

130:21 so this is this is this is crazy so we

130:24 got the

130:25 suffocating this vast suffocating

130:28 Federal bureaucracy that just gets

130:30 bigger every year um and and eventually

130:33 you get to the point where everything's

130:34 illegal you can't get anything done so

130:37 so what can be done like with obviously

130:41 the president has a lot of power but how

130:44 much power and what can be done in terms

130:46 of like eliminating agencies eliminating

130:48 waste eliminating yeah well I

130:52 so like if if Congress has created an

130:54 agency then I often if you look at the

130:56 law the law is like pretty simple like

130:58 the agency has like a very simple task

131:01 but then that agency over time vastly

131:05 increases its Authority um and starts

131:07 doing things that were never authorized

131:09 by Congress um that's happened with

131:11 pretty much every agency so so yeah

131:14 you'd have to you'd have to still you

131:16 know uh keep an agency you'd have to

131:19 match the law but you can you can tail

131:21 the agencies to be much smaller and say

131:23 you got to stick to what Congress

131:24 authorized instead of all this other

131:26 stuff you're

131:27 doing which I think makes sense and so

131:29 is the other stuff they're doing just

131:31 essentially bu bureaucracy run a muck or

131:33 they just create jobs and create things

131:36 to do and create a meaning for their

131:38 existence yeah it's like a tumor it's

131:41 just going to keep growing Jesus Christ

131:44 and it and it's so I mean for SpaceX

131:48 Starship was sitting on on the pad the

131:49 rocket with the giant rocket we could

131:51 build the rocket faster than they could

131:53 process the paperwork to approve the

131:54 launch two so we're sitting there for

131:56 two

131:58 months but do you think that they're

132:00 doing that on purpose to with you I

132:03 can't I

132:04 mean maybe a little but I mean that was

132:07 also not be

132:08 cool yeah uh but the I mean another way

132:12 to think of it is like the the amount of

132:15 the amount of paperwork uh is going to

132:18 go roughly with the square of the number

132:20 of agencies involved so because they all

132:22 have to meet with each other so like

132:23 let's say in a best case situation if if

132:26 if you've got like if if there's like if

132:29 you're dealing with one agency that's

132:30 one thing but if if you've got to deal

132:32 with five agencies and the agencies will

132:33 have to meet with each other now You'

132:35 got like you

132:37 know 25 different you know meeting

132:42 configurations that have to take place

132:46 uh and it just everything just you you

132:50 get just hardened of the arteries you

132:51 just can't make make progress like this

132:53 is why we can't build build High

132:55 highspeed rail in America it's basically

132:57 illegal right so this has been the the

132:59 argument has always been that we need

133:00 regulation because we need to protect

133:02 the environment we need to protect

133:04 people we need to make sure the rule of

133:06 laws followed so we need a certain

133:08 amount of Regulation but overregulation

133:10 is a giant problem that's a big issue in

133:13 California it's a huge issue anywhere

133:16 where bureaucracy has run a run a monck

133:18 they make it very difficult to get

133:20 anything done yes I mean what happens is

133:23 every year there are more rules and

133:26 regulations created um and in the past

133:30 what has served as a cleansing function

133:32 for rules and regulations is war because

133:34 like like well we're going to lose if we

133:36 don't kind of clear the decks but we

133:38 haven't really had an existential threat

133:41 of of war in the US we've had prosperity

133:42 for a long time which has resulted in a

133:45 massive buildup of rules and regulations

133:47 every year um and to the point where

133:50 like I said like everything's illegal

133:52 you know and it's not like any one

133:53 regulation is the problem it's like it's

133:55 like glia being tied down by a million

133:57 little strings it's not like any one

133:59 string is the problem but you got a

134:00 million of them so we have we we've got

134:03 to clear the decks here um and and I'm

134:07 not saying we shouldn't have Regulators

134:08 I'm just saying we we we've gone way too

134:12 far once you think of regulators like uh

134:14 like referees on a field you know a

134:16 sports field um you don't want to have

134:19 no no refs you want to have some number

134:21 of refs but you you don't want to have

134:22 way more refs than players right you

134:24 don't want to be like well you know the

134:27 running back couldn't couldn't complete

134:29 the F because there were too many

134:31 Regulators in the way because the

134:33 football Field's full of regulators yeah

134:35 you know like you can't even play the

134:36 game right that's the issue we got right

134:37 now well that's a great analogy yeah I

134:39 can imagine a football field that's

134:41 filled with refere like the football

134:43 Field's filled with refs you know you

134:45 can't even run past them yeah yeah that

134:47 I've seen criticism of this idea of you

134:51 um coming up with this department of

134:54 like firing a bunch of people and what

134:56 would happen and how would that work but

134:57 the criticism doesn't make any sense to

134:59 me because if there is if you measurably

135:04 if you can prove that there's a lot of

135:06 wasted time and resources which I think

135:09 is pretty easy to do and if you could

135:12 say that this is not the most efficient

135:13 like the most efficient businesses are

135:15 generally private businesses or a a

135:18 company because they kind of have to be

135:20 in order stay profitable yeah the

135:22 government doesn't have to be profitable

135:24 they don't have to be efficient they

135:26 don't have competition y so if you're

135:28 making cars and your cars break down

135:29 they suck and someone makes cars and the

135:31 cars are better they're going to succeed

135:33 so this is the free market the

135:35 government doesn't have this problem

135:36 when they're they're in charge of

135:38 certain things that could probably be

135:40 better served by the public by the

135:42 private

135:43 sector yeah absolutely well look I just

135:46 think we' we've gotten we've got far too

135:47 many government agencies the the federal

135:49 bureaucracy has gotten out of hand

135:51 um and we just need to pair it down to a

135:52 sensible level um and if it turns out

135:55 that like there's some regulation or

135:57 agency that was doing something useful

135:59 we can put it right back no problem like

136:02 it's like oh that regulation was

136:03 important no problem we put it right

136:04 back right as long as actually know but

136:07 be able to be able to look at it

136:08 logically and objectively and you were

136:11 also floating around the idea of

136:13 offering a large Severance to the people

136:15 that you're going to have removed yeah

136:17 like a couple years or something like

136:18 that is that what you're saying yeah I

136:20 mean I'm just these are again just ideas

136:22 but I mean it's the point is not that

136:24 people suffer economic hardship the

136:27 point is just that they they're it's

136:28 better there are more productive things

136:30 they can do in the economy and it's and

136:32 it would be better if they did these

136:34 other more productive things um and we

136:37 didn't have this vast pedal bureaucracy

136:39 so so like so I was like H you know

136:41 maybe like a couple years of pay would

136:42 be good um and then they they could take

136:45 a vacation they could take it take

136:47 another job and get double pay I mean

136:48 it's like it's not like a

136:51 it's not going to sense create create an

136:52 economic crisis I think it's actually

136:54 going to be really good I think because

136:56 uh we can PE you know people can move to

136:59 where they're making products and

137:00 services that are more useful to their

137:02 fellow human beings the problem is if

137:04 someone has like a 25 30e career of

137:07 being

137:07 institutionalized you're essentially

137:09 like a part of the government system

137:12 you've sort of programmed your life and

137:14 your career to be a part of this

137:16 bureaucratic system and then you're like

137:18 NOP you have to go out and compete in

137:20 the free market you're like

137:21 [Music]

137:23 Ah that's that's scary to people but you

137:26 have to be valuable you have to actually

137:28 be valuable yeah yeah uh I mean let's

137:32 look at like you know whatever the the

137:33 Govern pension and stuff they're not

137:34 going to be you know um in tough I think

137:37 they'll be in good Financial shape how

137:39 are you going to have the time to

137:40 oversee all this

137:43 well I'm I'm I'm pretty good at uh

137:46 you improving efficiency I mean um I

137:49 would say so yeah

137:51 but still this this seems like a giant

137:55 undertaking yeah I I'll probably need to

137:57 beef obscurity um oh yeah yeah yeah for

138:01 sure um but you know like I said like no

138:04 one's going to experience like I think

138:05 economic hardship that's you know they

138:08 they'll be fine you know and they'll

138:10 they'll people do find other roles I

138:12 mean you can look at sort of um you know

138:15 like when East Germany and and West

138:16 Germany got back together you know

138:18 everyone was basically working for the

138:19 government in East Germany

138:21 and um and it was really inefficient and

138:24 that like their economic output was like

138:27 in East Germany was like I know a

138:28 quarter of what it was in in West

138:30 Germany because everyone was working for

138:32 the government government's like

138:33 fundamentally inefficient so um the best

138:36 example is probably North and South

138:37 Korea right yeah like people are

138:39 starving North Korea and and South Korea

138:40 is incredibly prosperous yeah so and

138:43 it's the same people just different

138:45 operating system right so um you know

138:49 it's just like you just want to move

138:50 people from you know less productive

138:53 things to more productive things um

138:56 where they may you because you can also

138:57 say like in the limit like let's just

138:59 say let's consider the other direction

139:01 where we moved a whole bunch of people

139:03 that were in the private sector doing

139:05 making goods and services and we moved

139:06 them into the government as Regulators

139:09 now they stopped making those goods and

139:10 services the so the stuff they were

139:12 making is no longer available now

139:13 they're just being

139:17 Regulators like is that a good thing

139:19 that's not a good thing doesn't sound

139:20 good no it's not good doesn't sound like

139:22 there's a real market for it like you're

139:23 creating jobs that don't necessarily

139:25 need to be there they're all these fake

139:27 jobs basically um and um that doesn't

139:30 make sense so look we we got to do this

139:33 because the the country's going bankrupt

139:35 like we if we don't take action we're

139:37 we're dollars going to be worth nothing

139:40 and the interest payments which are

139:42 already 23% of of to of 23% of all

139:46 govern income call income taxes tariffs

139:48 and everything is just going to pay

139:50 interest

139:51 right now and that number is continually

139:53 Rising so if we don't do something the

139:55 entire government budget will be paying

139:57 interest there won't be money for

139:59 anything no it won't be money for Social

140:00 Security won't be money for Medicare

140:02 nothing that's where we're headed that's

140:05 what bankruptcy means yeah that's such

140:07 an insane concept

140:09 yes um let like hello wake

140:13 up wake up and if somebody can tell me

140:16 can can can show me like pencil out the

140:18 math show me how this works I'd love to

140:19 hear it but but just like listen I'm

140:21 looking at the numbers here and I'm like

140:23 if we're don't to do something America's

140:25 toast won't be money for anything Trump

140:27 likes to talk a lot about a lot is

140:29 tariffs yeah what what are your thoughts

140:31 on tariffs I know that's very

140:32 controversial to even people economists

140:36 they disagree some agree some think it's

140:38 a good idea some think it's a terrible

140:39 idea what do you

140:41 think I think you need to be careful

140:43 with tariffs

140:44 um like the I I deal a lot a lot with

140:48 like supply chain issues you know like

140:51 like the global automotive supply chain

140:53 for Tesla for example is incredibly

140:54 complex so when there are sudden changes

140:56 in tariffs then you're like well you

140:59 we've got a factory like somewhere else

141:01 that's making a part that goes into the

141:03 car now that suddenly if that part's

141:05 suddenly twice as expensive it like

141:07 messes everything up you know so um so

141:10 you you want to be uh have tariffs be

141:14 predictable um so that companies can

141:16 adjust their supply chain I mean I think

141:17 I think companies are more than happy to

141:19 uh increase uh Manufacturing in America

141:22 it's just that you can't do it instantly

141:24 so if if you if you put in if you if you

141:28 put put up giant tariffs immediately um

141:31 and don't give companies a chance to uh

141:34 you know build factories in America like

141:36 because you have to you got to move

141:37 atoms like you've got to build a

141:39 building you've got to install equipment

141:41 you've got to train people like that

141:44 doesn't happen instantly um so you just

141:48 got you want to have a for tariffs uh

141:51 you want to have a ramp so that people

141:53 companies can adjust um and and and

141:56 build the factories and train the people

141:57 and get the equipment in place um

142:00 otherwise just you basically just shock

142:02 the system and it and and it breaks or

142:04 bad things happen so I'm I'm against

142:06 like sudden sudden giant tariffs because

142:09 they they're it's an impossible response

142:11 if you've got to you know move a

142:14 thousand tons of equipment you know you

142:16 just some cases collectively millions of

142:19 tons of equipment you just can't do that

142:21 overnight it's literally impossible so I

142:24 think we want to be thoughtful about

142:27 tariffs um and and give companies a ramp

142:31 I mean I do generally agree that America

142:34 should do more manufacturing I'm a big

142:36 manufacturing guy I love manufacturing

142:38 so I've spent a lot of time in the

142:39 factory well we've talked openly about

142:41 the difficulties of manufacturing and

142:43 how complicated it is and about most

142:44 people aren't really aware of something

142:46 that's as complex as like say building a

142:48 Tesla yeah Manu is super hard and

142:52 complicated

142:53 so you know like a lot of people just

142:56 they they've never been in a factory or

142:57 they don't know where how how difficult

142:59 it is to make things um and they you

143:02 know for a lot of people they think just

143:03 ketchup comes from the store you know

143:04 like the store like just has a like

143:07 those are like people like for a lot of

143:09 people who've been in Academia or you

143:10 know for all these like sort of

143:11 Socialist Communist types like they've

143:13 never actually made anything so they

143:15 they they they're opera on the premise

143:16 that there's this magical Horn of planty

143:19 that just outputs goods and services and

143:21 if someone's got more goods and services

143:23 than someone else's cuz they took more

143:24 from this magical Horn of Plenty and I'm

143:26 like guys there's no magical Horn of

143:27 Plenty the the there's there's no

143:31 Cornucopia uh it's actually goods and

143:33 services come from people working

143:35 collectively doing a lot of hard work to

143:37 produce the goods and services that you

143:38 like um and that you that you need um so

143:43 but we've become very accustomed these

143:45 things happening overseas I mean America

143:47 is still the second biggest manufacturer

143:48 in the world so it's not not mean still

143:50 make a lot of stuff but um we could make

143:53 more um probably should make more I

143:56 think we should value manufacturing a

143:57 lot more in the United States than we

143:58 currently do well it' be very nice if we

144:00 were completely self-sufficient like

144:02 medicine like there's a bunch of

144:04 different things that get manufactured

144:05 overseas that was a huge problem during

144:07 covid because all the shipping was shut

144:10 down yeah I mean you you don't want to

144:12 say like so there there's a lot of Merit

144:15 to the economics of comparative

144:16 advantage like like

144:18 so if you complete self-sufficient what

144:21 that means is that you make all the

144:24 stuff yourself and and and and even if

144:26 some other country is really good at

144:28 making something you still make it

144:30 yourself and which means you're going to

144:31 have the inferior more costly product

144:33 domestically right um like Soviet Russia

144:37 yeah um like trade trade improves

144:41 Prosperity this is this is important um

144:44 so you you don't actually want to be

144:47 make everything yourself um and you can

144:50 you can run this like you can think of

144:52 this thought experiment on a on a sort

144:54 of a a m a micro scale and or small

144:56 scale and then expand that and say where

144:58 does the at at what point does the th

145:00 experiment no longer prove to be valid

145:02 now let's let's let's cons consider the

145:04 case of you as an individual imagine you

145:05 have to do everything yourself you had

145:07 to farm you had to uh grow chickens you

145:11 got if you want eggs you've got to build

145:13 your own house you've got to do your own

145:15 uh electrical repair your own Plumbing

145:17 everything yourself everything

145:21 how now that would be impossible okay

145:23 now let's expand it to okay you've got

145:25 there's 10 people now you're going to

145:27 have some some uh specialization of

145:29 tasks okay maybe one person can be

145:31 really good at you know uh construction

145:33 another person could be good at farming

145:35 it's like but it's still you know 10

145:37 people's not enough so like let's go to

145:39 100 people now let's go to 100 million

145:40 people now let's go to a billion people

145:42 and you still get the the economics of

145:45 of uh specialization like like

145:48 specialization of Labor where people

145:49 become expert at particular things still

145:52 matters at a billion people or at 8

145:55 billion people which is Earth so you

145:57 still want um you you do want

146:00 specialization of Labor you do want uh

146:02 countries to be really good at a

146:04 particular thing and make that thing um

146:06 also it encourages Innovation if you

146:07 have competition if the Germans are

146:09 making better cars we have to make

146:10 better cars we have to compete with them

146:12 which is like one of the things that

146:13 happen during like the 80s and 90s and

146:15 America was making crap cars and Germany

146:17 was making much better ones yeah exactly

146:19 I mean the yeah the Japanese car I mean

146:24 yeah I mean basically American car

146:26 industry got really lazy in the 70s uh

146:28 and and80s and and then the Japanese and

146:30 German car companies came in and just

146:32 cleaned the clock you know um and uh

146:36 there was like a an old joke from the

146:39 that that is kind of telling um it's a

146:43 very old joke um where it's like why did

146:45 the Japanese car companies beat the

146:46 American car companies um well it's like

146:49 well the in the Japanese car company you

146:51 had eight people rowing and one person

146:53 steering and in the American Car Company

146:55 you had eight people steering and one

146:57 person rowing if this was a boat so

146:59 imagine the boat race yeah boat race

147:02 Japanese boat you got eight people

147:03 rowing one person steering in the

147:05 American

147:06 boat um you got you got one person

147:09 rowing and eight people steering and

147:11 when the American Car Company loses the

147:13 race they they fire the

147:16 rower and it's like okay that was

147:19 actually kind of true yeah one of things

147:21 like everyone wants to do the be the

147:22 boss andone everybody wants to do the

147:23 work type of thing yeah um one thing

147:26 that a lot of people are concerned about

147:27 is uh the potential disruption that's

147:30 going to come about with Automation and

147:33 AI that a lot of these jobs

147:35 manufacturing jobs uh Teamsters all that

147:38 stuff is going to be

147:39 eliminated what what do I mean you're at

147:42 the Forefront of this so how do you see

147:45 this playing out and what do you think

147:47 that can be done to mitigate uh a lot of

147:50 the loss of purpose that a lot of people

147:53 are going to feel loss of income

147:55 obviously Universal basic income is

147:57 being floated about but that seems to me

147:59 to only be part of the problem the

148:02 another big part of the problem is

148:03 people losing a sense of

148:06 purpose yeah now we're talking about

148:08 something which is still pretty far in

148:11 the future you know like um how far do

148:13 you think it

148:15 is well I mean it's it's probably I

148:19 don't know 15 20 years years of a thing

148:21 um so we've got like immediate issues

148:25 we've got short-term issues that are I

148:28 know 1 to three years medium-term issues

148:30 like 5 to 10 years longer term issues

148:32 which are like maybe 20 years um longer

148:35 term I think there is this question if

148:37 if you have ai and Robotics how do you

148:39 find meaning in life if the computer can

148:41 do everything better than you can and

148:42 the robot can do everything better than

148:44 you can but we're we're still we got a

148:47 long way to go before that and we're you

148:49 know um

148:50 and I do think it's like 80% likely to

148:52 be a good outcome like maybe 90

148:56 um

148:57 so I think everyone's going to have

148:59 their own like personal robot like and

149:02 and I think at a certain point like

149:03 wouldn't you want to have your own

149:05 personal c3p R2-D2 so it's going to be

149:08 essentially just like everyone has their

149:09 own phone yeah everyone will have their

149:11 own robot

149:13 buddy like literally well it would be

149:16 great if it protected you like if you

149:18 walked down the street of New York City

149:20 have a Terminator with you uh I know

149:22 about the Terminator hopefully we got to

149:23 avoid we don't want this to be the plot

149:25 of James James Cameron you know we would

149:27 more more more Gene rotenberry than than

149:30 James Cameron uh movie situation but it

149:33 would be fascinating to watch some rich

149:35 person walk down the street of New York

149:36 City flanked by two giant Tesla robots

149:39 Jack Tesla robots were there protect

149:41 something that just fully robots so many

149:43 fully robot there to protect you from a

149:46 bad neighborhood yeah that would be very

149:49 interesting

149:50 I mean this is you could potentially see

149:52 that yeah um restaurants would probably

149:55 have no robot rules they can't bring a

149:58 robot yeah leave your robot stand leave

150:01 your robot outside your robot standing

150:02 by the

150:03 table man the future's going to be wild

150:06 it's going to be wild yeah yeah it's

150:08 going to be really

150:10 unpredictable like uh I don't think I

150:12 mean you probably have a pretty good

150:14 sense of it but I think most people

150:16 don't understand the wave that's coming

150:19 yeah and I was kind of kind of

150:20 completely drown society and change it

150:24 forever

150:26 yeah I mean it's we we have like I said

150:29 it's it's not like it's not going to

150:31 happen like overnight but it's 20 years

150:34 from now I'm like I think it's like 20

150:36 years from now I think there's going to

150:37 be more more humanoid robots than are

150:39 humans really yes more humanized what

150:44 that's so crazy like so that's like more

150:45 guns we have more guns than people in

150:47 America we have more robots than people

150:49 in America as well yes you have a bunch

150:51 of old robots nobody wants anymore I

150:55 guess um early early pions or something

151:00 um in in a historical

151:03 timeline 20 years in the past is not

151:06 been that big of a deal you know I mean

151:07 this a big deal but you go from like

151:09 1900 1920 not that big of a deal 1920

151:13 1940 kind of a big deal 1940 1960 things

151:16 start getting weird 60 to 80 wow that's

151:19 a big difference 80 to 2000 holy

151:22 now you have the internet 2000 to 2020

151:25 whoa this is nuts you have propaganda

151:28 social media YouTube

151:31 streaming 20 years from now like what

151:35 are we even talking about M it's going

151:38 to be that much of a shift like it's all

151:41 accelerating and we're in the middle of

151:43 it so it's very difficult to sort of

151:45 like feel it while it's happening it

151:48 kind of just feels like life

151:51 and you just get adapted to the

151:55 changes

151:56 yeah I mean people's phones at this

151:59 point are a supercomputer in their

152:00 pocket like an article that can answer

152:01 any questions people just take it for

152:03 granted yeah it's normal yeah they get

152:06 mad if it doesn't work yeah it's like

152:07 Louis CK's joke about using your phone

152:09 when you're on a plane piece of

152:11 like you're in the sky floating in

152:14 the air and now it will work with

152:15 starlink too what's that it will work

152:18 with starlink the starlink the starlink

152:20 connection uh it'll be like being on the

152:22 ground well I was telling you how I used

152:23 starlink when I was in Utah I was in the

152:25 mountains of Utah there was no cell

152:27 phone service anywhere near and we had

152:29 full YouTube we had text messages

152:34 FaceTime everything phone calls it was

152:37 nuts yeah and it was it's this big as

152:39 that cigar box yeah it's crazy it's so

152:42 light when I brought it out there like

152:43 that's it I this is it let just plug it

152:45 in and the guys I was in Camp with they

152:47 like this is crazy yeah the whole Camp

152:50 was like sharing it so like 10 people

152:53 yeah using the the Wi-Fi signal right

152:55 it's nuts

152:57 yep and then you know that's the

153:00 beginning I mean you what you're at

153:02 right now is like what version this is

153:04 starlink mini right so this is like a

153:07 very small version how how much smaller

153:09 can it scale down from that well there's

153:11 a certain uh area that you need like the

153:14 bigger the area the it's the more you

153:17 can like like bandwidth yeah because

153:20 you're you're like trying to catch these

153:21 like photons essentially so you can

153:23 think of the like the you know the area

153:26 of the of of the of the antenna is like

153:31 the more area you have the more photons

153:34 you can catch um so but but we have a

153:38 direct to sell capability as well that

153:39 we're just uh We've we've been launching

153:41 that will turn on I probably in a few

153:43 months um that that'll actually connect

153:46 directly to a cell phone unmodified U

153:49 but but because the cell phone is a much

153:50 worse antenna than a dedicated antenna

153:52 it'll be about a 100 times less

153:54 bandwidth but still you know you'll be

153:55 able to like do text messages you know

153:58 pictures like medium resolution videos

154:00 that kind of thing one of the cool

154:01 things about the new phone the new uh

154:04 iPhone the iPhone 16 uh I got it and I

154:07 was in the mountains last month and I

154:08 was text messaging with satellites yeah

154:11 iMessages right and receiving them but

154:13 just text yeah just text yeah but still

154:16 pretty impressive yeah yeah I mean what

154:19 are we what are we going to be looking

154:21 at 100 years from now I mean when you

154:24 100 years from now I hope civilization's

154:26 around yeah that'll be a win yeah yeah

154:30 what what are the chances that we

154:32 this whole thing

154:34 up

154:38 50% it's hard to say I

154:41 mean

154:46 um I guess not like I don't think

154:48 civilization will be totally destroyed

154:50 unless there's like some really massive

154:51 Global th nuclear war um but

154:56 uh I mean you Stephen Hawking he would

154:59 say that there's like a one at least a

155:00 1% chance of total Annihilation every

155:02 Century that was his rough estimate um

155:07 but there's a much bigger chance of

155:08 civilization being less capable than it

155:11 is today so you say like well because

155:14 you look at say you know these various

155:16 civilizations throughout history um

155:19 whether it's the like ancient samarians

155:21 or the you know Egyptians the Romans

155:26 like they they there's like a life cycle

155:27 to civilization they reached a peak and

155:30 then they started

155:32 subsiding um

155:35 so so I think a bigger question is like

155:37 will will will our technology level be

155:39 better or worse than it is today in 100

155:41 years

155:45 um I think it's probably going to be

155:47 better

155:51 I I think but any estimates are are

155:53 going to be so there's so many

155:56 dependencies like like an estimate I

155:58 think is I'm not sure it has any any

156:00 meaning um because it's like there's so

156:02 many things that can happen in 100 years

156:04 well The Logical hope is always that

156:06 people pay attention to history and they

156:08 recognize the patterns and how

156:10 civilizations have collapsed yeah and

156:12 they recognize what's going wrong in the

156:14 current society and say we have to do

156:17 our best to mitigate this and we've seen

156:19 this happen before let's course correct

156:22 and let's sort of manage what we've got

156:25 here now and maintain what we've got

156:27 here now because it's pretty

156:28 extraordinary yes this is what we're

156:30 hoping for with this election this is

156:33 what we're hoping for with the future is

156:35 that people can see we are on a bad path

156:39 and something can be done right now and

156:41 it might be the only moment in history

156:43 where this is possible because if they

156:45 do lock the country down and make it so

156:47 that voting is kind of you're

156:49 voting for primaries and the people that

156:51 they put in the primaries they're

156:52 controlling that in the first place you

156:53 don't really have democracy anymore you

156:55 don't really have Choice exactly you

156:57 don't really have freedom that's

157:00 right yeah I think freedom is is

157:02 fundamentally at stake in the election

157:04 tomorrow and we'll know we'll know I

157:05 think we'll know by the end of day

157:06 tomorrow I don't think it's going to

157:07 take it's not going to be like days

157:09 after the election I think we'll know

157:10 tomorrow are you optimistic I I am I'm

157:13 currently optimistic but um the the

157:16 biggest Factor here is that men need to

157:19 vote that is the biggest issue so um I I

157:24 don't know what what the reason is but

157:26 but men just vote at a much lower rate

157:28 than women I think it's like 9% right

157:30 someone just told me that today it's

157:31 it's a it's a big difference um like and

157:35 uh I'm just like saying this is a

157:37 message to the men out there vote like

157:39 your life depends on it because I think

157:41 it does vote vote tomorrow like your

157:43 life depends on it nothing is more

157:46 important I agree yeah listen man thank

157:48 you for being here I know you're busy as

157:50 so I really appreciate your time

157:52 and again I I thank you so much for

157:54 buying Twitter because I really do

157:56 believe that you've changed the course

157:57 of history I I really do think you've

158:00 you've created a pathway where people

158:02 can actually Express themselves and

158:04 actually exchange information that

158:06 really didn't exist before and I think

158:08 it was dangerous it is it is dangerous

158:11 hopefully I live long enough to see my

158:13 kids grow up and people on

158:15 Mars that's that be that's that's all

158:18 I'm asking for here I don't think that's

158:20 too much to

158:21 happen thank you very much appreciate

158:24 thank you pleasure all right bye

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